any active-exhaust-ed 24vs here?

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  • static
    E30 Addict
    • Oct 2005
    • 501

    #1

    any active-exhaust-ed 24vs here?

    was inspired by this a while ago: http://autospeed.com/cms/title_Butte...2/article.html

    always felt like shutting up the noisy s50 (drown at low rpm sometimes makes me feel like someone is drilling my skull), but don't want to choke the nice straight-through exhaust and lose the powa up high
    So i splurged and bought this: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DTE-HR212-3V/
    and a pair of ebay-special solenoid valves to control the amount of vacuum feeding the actuator on the butterfly exhaust valve in hopes of brewing my own active exhaust system.
    Made up a little proto controller, which allows me to control the angle of the butterfly valve as i spin a handle of potentiometer (later to be substituted with real input from the exhaust back-pressure sensor, throttle angle, rpm, etc).

    It's not on the car yet, but soon hopefully.
    I can post progress with videos if anyone is interested.

    Alex
  • hoveringuy
    R3VLimited
    • Dec 2005
    • 2679

    #2
    I've always wondered about those.. let us know how it turns out.

    Isn't it an on/off affair with the vacuum solenoid?

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    • static
      E30 Addict
      • Oct 2005
      • 501

      #3
      not on and off at all. I guess it would depend on solenoid valves one would use. They should be fast acting and not too large of an orifice (and not too small, as otherwise it wouldn't supply/purge vacuum fast enough, or too fast which, i imagine, would make it on and off) my valves are 3mm orifice.
      I didn't count, but it looks like i've achieved at least 20 positions between fully closed and fully open while spinning the pot.

      here are some pics. I'll try to shoot a video of the thing in action





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      • matt
        No R3VLimiter
        • Oct 2003
        • 3731

        #4
        So wait... that thing just sits in your exhaust and adds backpressure?

        Seriously?

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        • JGood
          R3V OG
          • Jan 2004
          • 7959

          #5
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          • 416stroker
            R3VLimited
            • May 2008
            • 2448

            #6
            Cool but why not just run two mufflers on a street car?
            Last edited by 416stroker; 08-29-2009, 12:21 AM.
            84 318I Delphin RIP
            87 325IS delphin 24v Sold
            89 325 Alpineweiss

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            • static
              E30 Addict
              • Oct 2005
              • 501

              #7
              Originally posted by JGood
              Wife beater beer!!!!!
              no wife here :pimp:

              yea, pretty much creating backpressure when cruising and driving at low rpm

              got two mufflers already, they are largest straight through magnaflows i could fit. I realized that as long as it's straight-through, there always bound to be nasty drone.

              this is just an experiment anyway. it worked for the guy in the article

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              • 10Toes
                Me Father Was A Tree
                • Jan 2008
                • 61222

                #8
                330's have this.

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                • evil_twin
                  R3VLimited
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 2965

                  #9
                  Brilliant! I want to see this. I was going to go with a big baffled muffler and run an e-cut out in my.
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                  • matt
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 3731

                    #10
                    A lot of cars have that... my 328 did until I put an M3 muffler on it.

                    But just for the noise?

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                    • z31maniac
                      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 17566

                      #11
                      Seems like running a chambered muffler would acheive your sound goals without all this. And I can't imagine a quality chambered muffler really costing you much HP/TQ
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                      • schwannman
                        Advanced Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 118

                        #12
                        that looks complicated.

                        and e-cut outs suck! at least the one that i had on my civic. we just did it for the lulz but it was one with a valve like that and it was SUPER hard, if not impossible, to get it perfectly closed so it sounded like there was a major exhaust leak whenever it was "closed" said fuck it and bolted a plate in place of it. waste of money. unless it's a mostly track car and you dont care what it sounds like.
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                        • evil_twin
                          R3VLimited
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 2965

                          #13
                          What e-cut out did you have? The one that QTP always has problems with the motor going out or the valve not closing all the way.
                          I got a fender roller now! LMK if you need me to roll your fenders or want to rent the tool from me locally.

                          Paypal: vdang5@gmail.com

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                          Herndon, VA
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                          • turbo325i
                            E30 Enthusiast
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 1143

                            #14
                            I always see these in the e46's at work. I always thought they were interesting... I like the idea. Do they come in 3.5"?
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