m52tub28 double vanos in e30? What parts from donor car?

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  • fenixsz
    Noobie
    • Dec 2009
    • 6

    #1

    m52tub28 double vanos in e30? What parts from donor car?

    Hello,

    What I need from donor car to run Double Vanos m52tub28 in e30? It will be with OBDI II?

    It will be daily car and this torquer engine is on top of my wishlist!
  • hoveringuy
    R3VLimited
    • Dec 2005
    • 2673

    #2
    Very few people have transplanted the M52tu into the e30 and kept it OBDII. It is electrically challenging, but it can be done.

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    • fenixsz
      Noobie
      • Dec 2009
      • 6

      #3
      well, m52tu is double vanos and obd 1 will not be possible?

      I am looking at m52, because it is lighter with his aluminum block and will balance the car. Stock hp's of this engine is enough for me.

      Most probably, I will look for whole donor car from UK, but I am aware of Nikasil problems of 90's engines.

      From wiki

      M52 engine in some markets, especially the UK, which had high levels of sulfur in the petrol during the late 90's. Sulfur acts as a corrosive agent against Nikasil and led to a lot of the early engines having premature bore-liner wear. Fortunately this problem was solved in post-September 1998 cars with the introduction of steel cylinder liners, with the designation M52 TU-3. However problems are still present in these engines so affected cars of this period should be bought with caution unless the service history verifies that work was carried out to rectify the problem. The American market M52 used iron sleeves from the beginning, and so, was unaffected by this problem.

      A Technical Update or M52TU version in 1999 added Double-VANOS and other modifications.
      So engine should be either post-September 1998 single vanos with steel liners or post 1999 double vanos.

      If I find single vanos, I can make it obd 1, but post-September 1998 will be very rare option.

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      • z31maniac
        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
        • Dec 2007
        • 17566

        #4
        Originally posted by fenixsz
        well, m52tu is double vanos and obd 1 will not be possible?
        I think this is how hovering did it, but with a standalone VANOS controller.

        The guy is an electrical genius.
        Need parts now? Need them cheap? steve@blunttech.com
        Chief Sales Officer, Midwest Division—Blunt Tech Industries

        www.gutenparts.com
        One stop shopping for NEW, USED and EURO PARTS!

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        • fenixsz
          Noobie
          • Dec 2009
          • 6

          #5
          yep, I saw his thread about m54b30 - it's awesome!

          I know that m52tub28 and m54 are very similiar engines - how far I am from true?

          Are all parts needed for running stock obdi 2 m52tub engine in e30 in donor's car?

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          • dirtysix
            E30 Modder
            • Aug 2006
            • 806

            #6
            Use the m52.
            The nikasil was an issue with fuel that had high levels of sulfur added to it.
            Most countrys ran nikasil engines with no problems.
            I believe this is no longer an issue.
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            • fenixsz
              Noobie
              • Dec 2009
              • 6

              #7
              Originally posted by dirtysix
              Use the m52.
              The nikasil was an issue with fuel that had high levels of sulfur added to it.
              Most countrys ran nikasil engines with no problems.
              I believe this is no longer an issue.
              OK, but in this case I should avoid cars and engines from UK :(

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              • MattM
                E30 Modder
                • Apr 2009
                • 931

                #8
                depends on what car the doner is... you will need other parts too.. read the stickys


                Full Build Thread Here

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                • Major
                  Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 82

                  #9
                  How can you tell whether an M52 is OBD-I or OBD-II? I have one in my garage, no idea what the donour car is apart from a 328i automatic that had done 71'000 miles.

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                  • fenixsz
                    Noobie
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 6

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Major
                    How can you tell whether an M52 is OBD-I or OBD-II? I have one in my garage, no idea what the donour car is apart from a 328i automatic that had done 71'000 miles.
                    As far as I know, all M52's are OBD II, but those with single vanos can be converted to OBD I.

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                    • z31maniac
                      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 17566

                      #11
                      Originally posted by fenixsz
                      As far as I know, all M52's are OBD II, but those with single vanos can be converted to OBD I.
                      Correct, at least state side. I can't comment on engine from other parts of the world.

                      The dual vanos M52 is the M52B28TU if I remember correctly.
                      Need parts now? Need them cheap? steve@blunttech.com
                      Chief Sales Officer, Midwest Division—Blunt Tech Industries

                      www.gutenparts.com
                      One stop shopping for NEW, USED and EURO PARTS!

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                      • Major
                        Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 82

                        #12
                        Ah, thank you! Then my next question is, how do I know if it's a TU or not?

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                        • 10Toes
                          Me Father Was A Tree
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 61222

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Major
                          Ah, thank you! Then my next question is, how do I know if it's a TU or not?
                          It will be double vanos.

                          Double vanos





                          single vanos

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                          • Major
                            Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 82

                            #14
                            Thank you! :) So I have an OBD-II single VANOS M52?

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                            • hoveringuy
                              R3VLimited
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 2673

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Major
                              Thank you! :) So I have an OBD-II single VANOS M52?
                              Yes. That's single VANOS.

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