Chip necessary on OBD1 m52?

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  • lifeiskaos
    E30 Mastermind
    • Dec 2007
    • 1709

    #1

    Chip necessary on OBD1 m52?

    Hello. As I understand it, some s50's came with 413 ECU's, same as m50tu's. If the ECU is able to adapt that much to the cams and displacement, can it do the same for an OBD1 m52? With stock or s52 cams, it's kinda halfway between an m50 and an s50... Thoughts?
  • surebimmer
    E30 Modder
    • Jan 2004
    • 978

    #2
    It need's the correct chip for said mod's. A 413 DME from a m50 is going to have a different program then a 413 DME from a 95 S50 M3.

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    • lifeiskaos
      E30 Mastermind
      • Dec 2007
      • 1709

      #3
      Originally posted by surebimmer
      It need's the correct chip for said mod's. A 413 DME from a m50 is going to have a different program then a 413 DME from a 95 S50 M3.
      I did not know that. That's silly for BMW to assign the same part number for different tunes ><

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      • surebimmer
        E30 Modder
        • Jan 2004
        • 978

        #4
        That is just the Bosch part number of the DME 0 261 200 413, not a BMW part number.

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        • lifeiskaos
          E30 Mastermind
          • Dec 2007
          • 1709

          #5
          Someone on bimmerforums said he's got a stock 506 s50 chip that works great with his OBD1 m52 with s52 cams. Anybody else using something similar?

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          • lennon
            E30 Fanatic
            • Jun 2008
            • 1416

            #6
            Originally posted by lifeiskaos
            I did not know that. That's silly for BMW to assign the same part number for different tunes ><
            the physical DME is the same. that's what the number "413" is in reference to. it's the removable chip inside that is different...

            just like the super nintendo system can play both "super mario bros" and "super mario bros 3".

            edit- and, i wouldn't use an s50 chip with a 2.8. go ahead and drop a couple hundred bucks on a proper chip for your motor.

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            • lifeiskaos
              E30 Mastermind
              • Dec 2007
              • 1709

              #7
              Yes, I understand now. Still silly IMO :D

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              • matt
                No R3VLimiter
                • Oct 2003
                • 3731

                #8
                It would be sillier to have to swap an entire ECU when the only difference is the chip. :)

                Let me know if I can help...

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                • Mossman
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 1961

                  #9
                  I'm running a 506 chip in 413 dme, stock s52 obd1 swapped. Runs good can't complain, once I get it on the dyno as-is just cuz I'm curious I'll be getting either a TRM tune or a WAR chip, undecided.

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                  • lifeiskaos
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 1709

                    #10
                    Don't 506 chips have EWS?

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                    • MR 325
                      Moderator
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 37828

                      #11
                      I'd bet an OEM S50 chip would run just fine on an M52. Hell, I'd rock it.
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                      • lifeiskaos
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 1709

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MR 325
                        I'd bet an OEM S50 chip would run just fine on an M52. Hell, I'd rock it.
                        with or without s52 cams?

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                        • Mossman
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 1961

                          #13
                          Originally posted by lifeiskaos
                          Don't 506 chips have EWS?
                          The 506 DME it came from had EWS, I popped the 506 chip into a 413 redlabel box and to my surprise it fired up on the 1st crank.

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                          • jahnaboi
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 1742

                            #14
                            You guys are still novices when it comes to EWS!!!

                            SINdelle:E36 M3 5-Lug | 17x8 & 17x9 BBS RS | S52/ZF | 2.93LSD/3.5HFM/24lb Injectors/C&S Chip[B]SOLD[B]

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                            • lifeiskaos
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 1709

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mossman
                              The 506 DME it came from had EWS, I popped the 506 chip into a 413 redlabel box and to my surprise it fired up on the 1st crank.
                              Cool, thanks.

                              WTB stock 506 chip! lol

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