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  • SwiftE30
    E30 Modder
    • Jun 2010
    • 998

    #1

    US vs. Euro s52

    What's the difference? I found the specs on a website that said the euro has roughly 35 more HP than the US, as well as a faster 0-60 by .3.
    What is different between the two?
    1989 E30 Zinnoberrot Vert 325i OBD1 S52 turbo;IP
  • Danny
    Moderator
    • Feb 2008
    • 14216

    #2
    Search. God damn.

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    • imdashiz
      E30 Fanatic
      • Sep 2009
      • 1373

      #3
      Originally posted by Danny
      Search. God damn.
      PSN ID: Yourself1

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      • dinanm3atl
        R3V OG
        • Feb 2007
        • 7305

        #4
        What different? Almost everything.

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        • Uber E30
          E30 Fanatic
          • Aug 2008
          • 1409

          #5
          well since there is no euro s52, there is a great difference
          -Alex

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          • imdashiz
            E30 Fanatic
            • Sep 2009
            • 1373

            #6
            Originally posted by dinanm3atl
            What different? Almost everything.
            most noticeable things are the beautiful ITB's
            PSN ID: Yourself1

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            • CincinnatiKid
              Mod Crazy
              • Nov 2007
              • 716

              #7
              Originally posted by Uber E30
              well since there is no euro s52, there is a great difference
              1990 S50 goodness.

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              • bmw325csi
                R3V Elite
                • May 2007
                • 4045

                #8
                US: souped up m50/52
                EURO: Real ///M engine
                harry/harout

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                • Chrisv006
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 375

                  #9
                  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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                  • SwiftE30
                    E30 Modder
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 998

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Danny
                    Search. God damn.
                    just curious man, no need to be a dick. Im sure you've had some retarted questions in your BMW career...
                    1989 E30 Zinnoberrot Vert 325i OBD1 S52 turbo;IP

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                    • calz4m
                      Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 96

                      #11
                      Think of the Euro S50B32 as an early S54 (without all the electronics). As someone mentioned,the S52 is basically an upgraded M50/M52. Entirely different engines. With the increasing availability of the S54 for swaps it's becoming increasingly harder to justify the Euro engine route. Pricing is probably similar between the two, but I have no data to support that claim. Guessing both are around 5K(ish) with a harness and ECU. If you are a real purist then putting the S50B32 into an E36 M3 would be the move. Otherwise, S54 all the way.

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                      • eandrade
                        Advanced Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 117

                        #12
                        One is prettier and makes neat noises.
                        sigpic
                        1990 325i

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                        • M3 euro ltw
                          Site Sponsor
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 259

                          #13
                          E36M3 engine varieties: US S50, S52, Euro S50B30 & S50B32

                          US M3 (240 hp)

                          Conrod bearing size 45mm
                          Two setting Vanos. (nl or advance, not variable)
                          Headers of suboptimal design
                          Hydraulic self adjusting valves
                          WP is of questionable quality
                          No oil cooler provision (First M engine to lack this)
                          Single TB. (May favor torque, but certainly not HP)

                          S50B30 (286 hp)

                          Max HP 286 at 5900 rpm
                          Max Torque 235 at 3600 rpm
                          Redline 7200 rpm
                          Conrod bearings are 50mm
                          Forged Rods
                          Intake vanos is continuously variable (30 deg?) each direction
                          Headers are equal length, preserve torque (no O2 bungs)
                          Bucket/Shim set up for valves, needs interval maintenance
                          Excellent wp and thermostat set up manifold provides thermostat and oil cooler
                          Insulating ceramic spacers between header and cylinderhead
                          Motronic dme and separate vanos controller, both “chippable”
                          6 TB set up
                          Late versions include EWS II
                          Catalytic had O2 bungs pre-cat only.

                          S50B32 (321 hp)

                          Max HP 321 at 7400 rpm
                          Max Torque 236 at 3600 rpm
                          Redline 7600 rpm
                          Conrod bearings are 49mm
                          Sintered rods after 10.96 (I think)
                          Intake and Exhaust cams continuously variable
                          Headers improve slightly on 3.0 weight and thickness, include O2 bungs
                          Dual pickup oil pan
                          Compression bump from 3.0 version
                          Ceramic spacers no longer included
                          Siemens DME flash only, Vanos controller incorporated into main DME
                          MZ3 versions may have EWS III
                          sigpic
                          Trying to make the world a better place, 6 TB at a time.
                          http://abloriginalparts.com/

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                          • digger
                            R3V Elite
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 5921

                            #14
                            Fixed some errors for the S50B32

                            Originally posted by M3 euro ltw
                            US M3 (240 hp)

                            Conrod bearing size 45mm
                            Two setting Vanos. (nl or advance, not variable)
                            Headers of suboptimal design
                            Hydraulic self adjusting valves
                            WP is of questionable quality
                            No oil cooler provision (First M engine to lack this)
                            Single TB. (May favor torque, but certainly not HP)

                            S50B30 (286 hp)

                            Max HP 286 at 5900 rpm
                            Max Torque 235 at 3600 rpm
                            Redline 7200 rpm
                            Conrod bearings are 50mm
                            Forged Rods
                            Intake vanos is continuously variable (30 deg?) each direction
                            Headers are equal length, preserve torque (no O2 bungs)
                            Bucket/Shim set up for valves, needs interval maintenance
                            Excellent wp and thermostat set up manifold provides thermostat and oil cooler
                            Insulating ceramic spacers between header and cylinderhead
                            Motronic dme and separate vanos controller, both “chippable”
                            6 TB set up
                            Late versions include EWS II
                            Catalytic had O2 bungs pre-cat only.

                            S50B32 (321 PS)

                            Max HP 316 at 7400 rpm
                            Max Torque 258 at 3250 rpm
                            Redline 7600 rpm
                            Conrod bearings are 49mm
                            Sintered rods after 10.96 (I think)
                            Intake and Exhaust cams continuously variable
                            Headers improve slightly on 3.0 weight and thickness, include O2 bungs
                            Dual pickup oil pan
                            Compression bump from 3.0 version
                            Ceramic spacers no longer included
                            Siemens DME flash only, Vanos controller incorporated into main DME
                            MZ3 versions may have EWS III
                            89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                            new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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