Tubular Front Sub frame and Custom Pan for dual pump set up

[Lag]

I will have these pics ready shortly.

[XvillainousX]

I'd like to see this subframe/pan combo installed..

[Lag]

I spoke with Tyler and I think that we can do better on the price if we can get a few people to commit to this. I think the price would go to about $600 plus your parts if we can get around 5 people to commit. I will wait for him to confirm.

Sam

[StereoInstaller1]

With the right jig you could make that fit the E36 control arms for BBK/5 lug too.

[Lag]

Thanks for posting those Tyler. Once I have the sub frame back I will post pictures of it mounted to the motor with the pan on it for everyone to see the complete package.

One thing to note is I did not ask for the oil level sensor but I am sure it can be added at no charge. My pan also, right now, does not have the over flow nipple from the head and that will be tapped into the pan shortly.

[FredK]

Hey, thanks for joining!

The parts look great!

[TinyT]

hey guys, I made the parts for sam and have some pictures I just took quick before they went to him. He is getting the subframe powder coated right now.

Obviously this is the first set of these parts, I figured out some good ways to make them better the next time around, all though his parts should work well too.

The oil pan is fully welded inside and out too btw.







Like sam said, I could make these fully fabricated, but that would send the price up and really have no benefit.


I can do the subframe and pan for $1000 if you send me your stuff, otherwise I will charge a core if I have to source the parts. thanks for looking, I hope to offer some more parts to the community in the future, this is the first stuff I have done for a bmw.

[240zs30]

In for pics also. I currently have the S54 and i have been researching other ways such as this to install it.

[erik325i]

Great idea. I was actually planning on doing this myself for my next swap. Have a couple sets of the euro oilpan/pumps, and a spare subframe I was planning on chopping up.
If the price is right, I'd just buy a setup from you, rather than going through the hassle myself.

I'm very interested in seeing your final pics and price.

it also has the sway bar mounts reinforced.

Will you be able to fit a swaybar in the stock location? All of the e30s I've seen running the euro oilpan have had to switch to a swaybar mounted in front of the subframe, rather than behind it.

[Mako18]

seems interesting waiting for pics

[Lag]

Yea we could have gone with a full custom front sub frame but we decided that there would be minimal benefit and also result in a more expensive piece. Right now we have minimum quantities of S54/euro pans and stock front sub frames so we could provide them if needed but it would drive up the price. Most people purchasing these motors are getting them with the pan and already have a sub frame so it would be less expensive and easier for all to just send them in for modification. We are not trying to make a business out of this but are trying to offer a great solution that will fit peoples needs.

As far as a price point we have not fully decided yet but it will be under $1k with parts supplied which is much less than the quotes I have gotten else where and worth the $ IMO.

Sam

[Teaguer]

I understand the reason and goal of a subframe that allows use of the e36 Euro and e46 s54 dual pick-up systems.
However I find it a little odd that you chose to modify a stock subframe instead of just fabbing up an all tubular unit like the ones available for e36 & Rx7 LS1 swaps.

In reality its not a tublar subframe but just a "modified subframe". ;)

I'm definitely in for pics and how about an expected price point?
Are you supplying the original pans to be modified or are you expecting potential buyers to supply their own to you?

[328ijunkie]

Woah!

[Lag]

I went to school for mechanical design, so while not being an Engineer, I do have some design experience. The fabricator also has extensive experience. He has been doing this for many years and his father was a very good fabricator as well. So he has been doing it since he was a little kid.

As far as oil starvation and US S5X's you are right, there are not many reports of oil starvation, although there are plenty of guys who race those cars that upgrade to the dual pick up system for a reason. There have been people who have had problems with oil starvation on the euro motors and have gone dry sump. Another benefit of this is an oil pan that is not lower than the sub frame. The E34 pan hangs down pretty low and for cars that are really low, this can be an issue.

I do think that this sub frame would allow for the euro headers. I have an S54 that we used for mock up and it clears my KK headers with ease! Once I have pictures up you can take a look and let me know what you think.

Sam

[mbonder]

Does this new subframe allow for the use of the euro s50 headers? You can use them with a stock subframe but you have to modify it by cutting out a chunk so that headers fit.