exhaust question

[nando]

I love how people expect exhaust work to be like $300 for tubing and mufflers and labour.

I know, it's stupid. *maybe* you could get it that cheap, if you use the cheapest, single muffler you can, the cheapest, thin wall single pipe you can buy, and have it all done in one peice from the header to the exhaust tip, and hang it with twist ties.

[giantkeeper]

crush bends aren't bad if they're done properly (up to 30 degrees or something? it's on gustave's website).

You have to be careful with mandrel bends that are peiced together, because if the guy does a sloppy job of welding (with ridges/steps inside the pipe) it's going to be worse than a good crush bend and cost more at the same time.

if you're staying N/A I'd go for a single 2.5". Vbands are nice, just make sure your welder knows WTF he's doing, if he warps the vband flanges they won't seal properly. Otherwise they make it super easy to remove the exhaust, we're talking under 5 minutes rather than a half hour or more (stupid rusty 3-bolt flanges!).

EduardoGomez - dude, you're sort of walking on thin ice here. did you come in just to insult a guy because he had a decent exhaust system built? WTF? $600 isn't even that much.

Are you kidding me? You can't even get a good set of headers for $600.

I love how people expect exhaust work to be like $300 for tubing and mufflers and labour.

You make me laugh. Go look at how much a decent muffler, cat and resonator cost, then multiply by two if you want dual piping.

I know, it's stupid. *maybe* you could get it that cheap, if you use the cheapest, single muffler you can, the cheapest, thin wall single pipe you can buy, and have it all done in one peice from the header to the exhaust tip, and hang it with twist ties.

HakkenTT is upset we showed him the door on a local board.

The $600 was for vibrant cat, resonator, muffler, y pipe, and 2.5" mandrel tubing with all custom hangers. I thought I got a great price for the quality of the product, work, and the amazing sound!

[nando]

HakkenTT is upset we showed him the door on a local board.

so it is the same guy. interesting.

[e30polak]

HakkenTT is upset we showed him the door on a local board.

The $600 was for vibrant cat, resonator, muffler, y pipe, and 2.5" mandrel tubing with all custom hangers. I thought I got a great price for the quality of the product, work, and the amazing sound!

Exhaust clips or ban!!! :hitler:

Which Vibrant resonator did you use? I'm going to go with the "Ultra Quiet" Vibrant this time for my s54 exhaust.

http://www.verociousmotorsports.com/Shop-by-Category/Resonators/Vibrant-Performance-Ultra-Quiet-Resonator

Since the Street Power muffler are pretty loud, and catless headers make the s54 stupid loud, I want to see how this works compared to a conventional Borla as a middle muffler. Vibrants are my favorite mufflers, PERIOD. I don't care how loud they are, they flow great and sound amazing! :pimp:

[giantkeeper]

Exhaust clips or ban!!! :hitler:

Which Vibrant resonator did you use? I'm going to go with the "Ultra Quiet" Vibrant this time for my s54 exhaust.

http://www.verociousmotorsports.com/Shop-by-Category/Resonators/Vibrant-Performance-Ultra-Quiet-Resonator

Since the Street Power muffler are pretty loud, and catless headers make the s54 stupid loud, I want to see how this works compared to a conventional Borla as a middle muffler. Vibrants are my favorite mufflers, PERIOD. I don't care how loud they are, they flow great and sound amazing! :pimp:

I did the shorty 12" resonator....I'll get some photos up when I put her on a lift in the next week or so. I'll try to get video/audio tonight when we have our local GTG. Thanks again for the recommendation going with Verocious and Vibrant Chris, I love the setup!

[nando]

Exhaust clips or ban!!! :hitler:

Which Vibrant resonator did you use? I'm going to go with the "Ultra Quiet" Vibrant this time for my s54 exhaust.

http://www.verociousmotorsports.com/Shop-by-Category/Resonators/Vibrant-Performance-Ultra-Quiet-Resonator

Since the Street Power muffler are pretty loud, and catless headers make the s54 stupid loud, I want to see how this works compared to a conventional Borla as a middle muffler. Vibrants are my favorite mufflers, PERIOD. I don't care how loud they are, they flow great and sound amazing! :pimp:

what's wrong with the borla? just don't like the sound?

I didn't go with a resonator because I didn't want it to be loud, and I expected a muffler to do a better job. I'm thinking I might replace my dynomax with a vibrant but I like the way it sounds as-is..

[xAZxE30x]

Haha oh man!

Hey chris, I didn't know breeding snakes was considered torture? Lulz

Coming from the guy who reused 200k mile piston rings in his build I think anything that's not free or old is to much for him.

First locally, then e30tech (search his name), now here. Lulz

and to stay on topic..

I have heard Giantkeepers exhaust and it sounds really nice! It also looks clean as hell to!

[e30polak]

I did the shorty 12" resonator....I'll get some photos up when I put her on a lift in the next week or so. I'll try to get video/audio tonight when we have our local GTG. Thanks again for the recommendation going with Verocious and Vibrant Chris, I love the setup!

Must be pretty loud with only a resonator in the middle. I ran a 14" Glass-pack at one point in the middle behind my Vibrant, and it was really loud! Sounded amazing, but a bit too loud for a daily driven car.

what's wrong with the borla? just don't like the sound?

I didn't go with a resonator because I didn't want it to be loud, and I expected a muffler to do a better job. I'm thinking I might replace my dynomax with a vibrant but I like the way it sounds as-is..

Nothing, I loved my Borla + Vibrant combo, but I want to see how "quiet" the resonator actually is. It's moreover an act of curiousity because I love Vibrant's products! The catless headers + single 3" exhaust will be pretty loud with a Vibrant outback. I will be using an original E60 M5 cat before the resonator, so that should help. If it's not quite enough, then I will go with a larger Borla Pro-XS in the middle.

[nando]

where did you get an M5 cat? how big is it? I'd so much rather have an OEM BMW cat than aftermarket junk..

[e30polak]

where did you get an M5 cat? how big is it? I'd so much rather have an OEM BMW cat than aftermarket junk..

We know the guys at SP Engineering and they were going to scrap a whole factory exhaust with only 12k miles on it, so we gladly took it off their hands for free. A few nice cats for our personal cars!

The cat is 2 3/4" I believe or maybe 3" and it's roughly 12" long. I figure if it's enough for a S85, it's plenty for my S54. :nice:

[BADCLOWN]

alright, so i think ive decided to piece this exhaust together.


what all am i going to be looking at: resonator, cat, muffler, a Y pipe, and then the piping to be welded in from the header dump tubes out?