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  • rlddlr53
    E30 Fanatic
    • Oct 2009
    • 1450

    #1

    BAR your 24v swap

    So I went through the process of getting the swap legal. It was more time consuming than anything, since I had to go back a total of 4 times.

    Pretty lenient for visual as long as it passes the sniff test @ the pierce college location
  • eandrade
    Advanced Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 117

    #2
    Hi,

    Would you mind describing a bit about what specific paperwork you needed (if any?)
    Also, what type of intake were you running?

    I know you mentioned they were lax on visual, but did they go through the hassle of validating the VIN on the engine block? Did they care what type and configuration of cats you were running?

    Congrats on getting your swap legalized!

    -Ernie
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    • rlddlr53
      E30 Fanatic
      • Oct 2009
      • 1450

      #3
      a cone on the maf is okay, they said as long as air intake temps are regulated not on airbox ( s50 has it on intake manifold )

      e36 cats were necessary or carb legal ones, charcoal canister too, gas cap

      I needed new plugs, cats, gas cap, oil to pass


      Just everything from motor to cats e36 needs to be there

      They only checked for the VIN on the door and the chassis

      The guy thoroughly inspected my car twice. The last two visits he just did the rolling sniff test

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      • eandrade
        Advanced Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 117

        #4
        Perfect, thanks!

        I was just worried because I'm not 100% by the book legal.
        I have the EVAP canister hooked up and the PCV/vacuum lines are all routed correctly. But I have an OBD-I converted motor with OBD-II cats & OBD-II exhaust manifolds. Good to hear that there is a possibility they won't hassle me about being by-the-book accurate.

        -Ernie
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        • IRUNEDM
          E30 Enthusiast
          • Oct 2009
          • 1122

          #5
          Sweet! Good to know this info as for I am almost done with my swap.
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          • rlddlr53
            E30 Fanatic
            • Oct 2009
            • 1450

            #6
            As long as the obd2 cats have the bmw emblem and appear original it should be fine


            Originally posted by eandrade
            Perfect, thanks!

            I was just worried because I'm not 100% by the book legal.
            I have the EVAP canister hooked up and the PCV/vacuum lines are all routed correctly. But I have an OBD-I converted motor with OBD-II cats & OBD-II exhaust manifolds. Good to hear that there is a possibility they won't hassle me about being by-the-book accurate.

            -Ernie

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            • treff-7
              Grease Monkey
              • Sep 2009
              • 345

              #7
              Has any of you tried to BAR an OBD I S52 swap? I'm about to start my swap but i don't know what they have to say about that. i want to convert it to OBD I but if it won't pass i need to keep it OBD II.

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              • MR 325
                Moderator
                • Oct 2003
                • 37824

                #8
                Originally posted by treff-7
                Has any of you tried to BAR an OBD I S52 swap? I'm about to start my swap but i don't know what they have to say about that. i want to convert it to OBD I but if it won't pass i need to keep it OBD II.
                You can just pass it as an S50. That's what many people do.
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                • accident
                  R3V OG
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 7303

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MR 325
                  You can just pass it as an S50. That's what many people do.
                  This. In California it's illegal to modify or remove any emissions controls. Converting a motor to OBDI does just that, and if you tell them it's an S52, they're going to be looking for OBDII components that aren't there.

                  Originally posted by ROLLingKING
                  i have a bronzit and plan on making it look sweet.
                  Originally posted by slammin.e28
                  Moral of this story?

                  If you drive your e30 on stairs, you're gonna have a bad time.

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                  • treff-7
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 345

                    #10
                    This is exactly the reason why I ask because e30's were not equipped with obd I emission controls so technically if you install an obd I s52 you add obd I to the car and not remove obd II. What do you guys think?
                    Last edited by treff-7; 10-20-2011, 12:19 PM.

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                    • accident
                      R3V OG
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 7303

                      #11
                      The motor, and all of the emissions controls that came with it, have to be as they were from the factory.

                      Originally posted by ROLLingKING
                      i have a bronzit and plan on making it look sweet.
                      Originally posted by slammin.e28
                      Moral of this story?

                      If you drive your e30 on stairs, you're gonna have a bad time.

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                      • MR 325
                        Moderator
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 37824

                        #12
                        If you want it BAR'd as an S52, it needs to be running in OBD2 form. Definitely more work!

                        If you want an OBD1 S52, you need to bar it as an S50.

                        Is that clear enough for you?
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                        Classic BMW Specialists
                        Santa Clarita, CA

                        www.BimmerHeads.com

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                        • treff-7
                          Grease Monkey
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 345

                          #13
                          Originally posted by accident
                          The motor, and all of the emissions controls that came with it, have to be as they were from the factory.
                          I see. Thanks!

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                          • ian e30 318is
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 1804

                            #14
                            Anyone know of where is the easiest to pass near San Diego? I just got mine running. I just need to make an appointment somewhere

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                            • phreshkid
                              R3V Elite
                              • May 2009
                              • 4655

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ian e30 318is
                              Anyone know of where is the easiest to pass near San Diego? I just got mine running. I just need to make an appointment somewhere
                              A local community college might have the BAR/Referee station within it. Go drive your car for a few hundred miles or so before you think too hard about getting it BAR'd. Shit can go wrong and you'll be able to figure out the little kinks which will ultimately have your car running at it's best in terms of CO and NOX outputs.
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