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  • Aguedae30
    Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 68

    #1

    Getting some N/A M50 stroker power

    I've recently been reading some m50 stroker threads over here and I have already started doing some info work.
    As I live in france I have some pros/cons in comparison with USA

    -I was looking for a m52 crank and rods for my m50tu and make some around 11,25CR,lightweight aux pulleys and already installed m20 shaved flywheel,W.A.R. chip,s50US cams and 3" single exhaust.

    How do you feel about the idea? I was considering other 2 ways:

    -Swapping an euro s50(286hp out of the box) +remap could be 300hp easily

    Cons:only the engine + tranny + wiring could be around 3500$ easily and swapping it isn't as easy as my actual swap is.
    Among these,legal stuff gets involved in here as there is no e30 with larger displacement than 2,5L so it would be a complete headache to make it legal for street use.

    -m54b30 rotating assembly direct to my m50 block:
    I
    've seen this stroker already over the forum but I don't feel like doing this before the m52 stroker,as the pieces are harder to find and I don't think the engine would feel as revvy as it would with the m52 way even with some more power.


    So,about the initial stroker idea, I was thinking about the CR, in the US normal gas is about 89 or 91 RON, however,here in france the most common gas is 95RON and 98 is easily bought in some stations,so in order to use at least 95RON,how do you feel if I increase the CR near to 12 or 12,5:1? maybe it's too much?

    Any input and opinions are always well received

    Thanks in advance and sorry for my poor english :???:
    “Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary… that’s what gets you.”
    ― Jeremy Clarkson
    Euro 318is M50 build thread
  • Aguedae30
    Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 68

    #2
    Some picture as motivation ;)
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    “Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary… that’s what gets you.”
    ― Jeremy Clarkson
    Euro 318is M50 build thread

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    • mpowerful
      E30 Fanatic
      • Jul 2013
      • 1273

      #3
      The ron octane rating in the eu is different than octane in u.s. 95ron = 91 octane here.

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      • Aguedae30
        Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 68

        #4
        So it is even lower?
        “Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary… that’s what gets you.”
        ― Jeremy Clarkson
        Euro 318is M50 build thread

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        • mpowerful
          E30 Fanatic
          • Jul 2013
          • 1273

          #5
          Well 91 octane here (95 ron) is high grade here in most places. Our normal here is 87 octane or 91 ron.

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          • RobertK
            Kicked cancer's ASS.
            • Jun 2005
            • 5864

            #6
            Building a stroker is a labor of love. All the little stuff you have to order to build one correctly can easily add up to as much as a more expensive drop in engine.

            Start by planning out the build and pricing all the parts then go from there.

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            • Aguedae30
              Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 68

              #7
              I was expecting to spend some about 2000$ building another engine.
              Block,crank and rods,new gaskets and so on,so I can have it as second engine if the actual brakes or whatever
              “Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary… that’s what gets you.”
              ― Jeremy Clarkson
              Euro 318is M50 build thread

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              • DesertBMW
                E30 Enthusiast
                • Aug 2011
                • 1013

                #8
                Originally posted by RobertK
                Building a stroker is a labor of love. All the little stuff you have to order to build one correctly can easily add up to as much as a more expensive drop in engine.

                e.
                In Europe you have to register new engine serial number to the chassis, so it is not as simple doing engine swaps there than in free USA.

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                • Aguedae30
                  Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 68

                  #9
                  Originally posted by DesertBMW
                  In Europe you have to register new engine serial number to the chassis, so it is not as simple doing engine swaps there than in free USA.
                  True,thank you for the aclaration ;)
                  “Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary… that’s what gets you.”
                  ― Jeremy Clarkson
                  Euro 318is M50 build thread

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                  • meanEG
                    E30 Addict
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 562

                    #10
                    If you don't have an obd plug in the e30, how the hell is anyone the wiser. Why can't you just say its the stock engine? I would swap in the m powerplant and lie.
                    Looking for late model fogs, E39 Fog lights, cool cheap 17 5x120 wheels.

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                    • Aguedae30
                      Member
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 68

                      #11
                      There are inspections to pass every year and an M powerplant is quite different so it is easy for they to notice,if they do and you lie,you're in trouble
                      “Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary… that’s what gets you.”
                      ― Jeremy Clarkson
                      Euro 318is M50 build thread

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                      • DesertBMW
                        E30 Enthusiast
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 1013

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Aguedae30
                        True,thank you for the aclaration ;)
                        joder tio

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                        • Aguedae30
                          Member
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 68

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DesertBMW
                          joder tio
                          Haha your spanish is such good ;)
                          “Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary… that’s what gets you.”
                          ― Jeremy Clarkson
                          Euro 318is M50 build thread

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                          • Wanganstyle
                            R3VLimited
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 2828

                            #14
                            can you register the M powerplant to your chassis?

                            if so it would be the most ideal, its much easier to not modify anything and use it 100% bmw factory stock. Less time also and easier to find replacement parts.
                            OBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25

                            Z4 non powered steering rack fits e30



                            Euro e46 2005/6 320d 6mt gearbox into E30 with M20 hardy and beck 1985 327s engine

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                            • Aguedae30
                              Member
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 68

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Wanganstyle
                              can you register the M powerplant to your chassis?

                              if so it would be the most ideal, its much easier to not modify anything and use it 100% bmw factory stock. Less time also and easier to find replacement parts.
                              Technically yes,but,as the power increase is such high,they demand you to install a bigger brake set,suspension and so on so the chassis is in condition for such amount of power,and each modification means more money to get it registered on to the chassis,so a legal swap would be over 3000$ just in registrations,so it is not worth it.

                              I've tried to be as clear as possible 😅
                              “Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary… that’s what gets you.”
                              ― Jeremy Clarkson
                              Euro 318is M50 build thread

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