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    So damn close..... UGh... frustration...

    I have my modified s50 installed in the car... It has been a long process, but last night, I thought we were finally ready to hear it run... Put fluids in the car, installed a battery, everything turned on, but the motor.

    Just some background info: bought the car as a rolling shell, with a lot of original parts still in the car, seats, full dash, tranny... basically everything besides, the motor, carpet, rear seats, and paint...

    So upon installing the battery, all of the cluster lit up, gas gauge worked properly, headlights worked, interior switches lit up, etc. Nothing arc-ing, smelling like it was melting, no smoke or fire, etc. I thought that was a good sign. I did not hear a fuel pump relay click, or either of the fuel pumps running while in accessory position, so I immediately thought fuel.

    Tried numerous times to put it in accessory to try to prime it, even tapped the pump to see if I could jump start it (sometimes that works...) I figured, maybe try to start the car to see if it would turn over. When I go to start the car, I briefly put the key to start position, at let off. I hear one very loud click as if the starter was trying to turn over the motor, but it immediately stops - not a constant attempt to start. I did this 3 or 4 times.

    Then, just to see if I could get the motor to turn over, I held the key in start position, rather than let off. The starter tried to turn the motor over about twice, then I lost everything. All lights, all relays, everything. Is there a main fuse or something that I blew? I'm still trying to figure out why the starter isn't constantly trying to start the motor.

    there are really only 2 things that I can think of being the culprit at this time:
    1. I'm missing a ground? But why did everything light up and function properly before trying to start the car? Now nothing works, no grounds have been changed

    2. The terminal bracket in the engine bay does not have the wiring mounted appropriately. I noticed late last night that the e30 has a power bracket on the passenger side firewall. The main power terminal is just like the terminal of a battery. I did not have the correct terminal to mount the engine harness powerwire to the actual large terminal, so I mounted it to the smaller bolt on which the other power wire were mounted. Maybe that doesn't allow enough voltage into the main power wire of the harness? I did measure the large terminal and the smaller stud to both have 12V, but maybe the smaller stud doesn't allow for the required contact? Any ideas?

    I really need help trying to diagnose my issue. Any help would be appreciated! I just want to get this 4year project started and running under its own power!

    #2
    I made a mistake when i did mine. There are two wires on the engine harness by the diagnostic port. One is ground and one is power for harness. Make sure those are properly connected. Next check your ignition power going into the harness at c101. Cant even remember what pin it is but you prob know which one i mean. Next check the connection from starter to power. Must be solid.

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      #3
      Originally posted by mpowerful View Post
      I made a mistake when i did mine. There are two wires on the engine harness by the diagnostic port. One is ground and one is power for harness. Make sure those are properly connected. .
      Thanks... I only saw the one ground on the engine harness, I connected that to the ground on the passenger strut tower. I didn't see any other ground wires on the engine harness.

      Originally posted by mpowerful View Post
      Next check your ignition power going into the harness at c101. Cant even remember what pin it is but you prob know which one i mean. Next check the connection from starter to power. Must be solid.
      If you can let me know which one that is, it would be helpful! Thank you!

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        #4
        What year is your car? Anyway this is basically the diagram i followed and my car runs perfect. Mines a late model and this pinout is for a late model.

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          #5
          is ews removed?
          my build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=309778

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            #6
            Engine ground. You prob just melted some of
            The harness.. Maybe you're lucky!

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              #7
              Originally posted by Mistawall View Post
              is ews removed?
              i dont believe obdi 95s have ews.

              Originally posted by mpowerful View Post
              What year is your car? Anyway this is basically the diagram i followed and my car runs perfect. Mines a late model and this pinout is for a late model.

              got a wire harness adapter from a respected member on the forum


              Originally posted by 328ijunkie View Post
              Engine ground. You prob just melted some of
              The harness.. Maybe you're lucky!
              engine ground is good. ground by the headers into the passenger frame rail is showing very good ground.

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                #8
                How many grounds do you have?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber View Post
                  How many grounds do you have?
                  2 in total.

                  1 from engine to chassis by the headers, 1 from harness to strut tower bolt on passenger side.

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                    #10
                    I blew the fused link in the trunk for the battery. cluster powers up again like before.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by m3j0n View Post
                      i dont believe obdi 95s have ews.



                      got a wire harness adapter from a respected member on the forum




                      engine ground is good. ground by the headers into the passenger frame rail is showing very good ground.
                      My motor is from a 1/95 build car and it had ews. I did a good bit of research on this matter because my ecu originally had a dinan chip and thought it might not have ews but dinan said it did. Research also said any 12/94 build had ews also..

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                        #12
                        i'm not getting any power to the pins that plug into the ecu...I don't think ews is the current issue.

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                          #13
                          hang in there, you're close
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                            #14
                            got it started 2 days ago. I had painted the motor mount arms and forgot to scratch through the paint for the ground. Then had to trouble shoot a pesky power wire for the fuel pump.. gonna wrap everything up tomorrow and hopefully drive it a bit.

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                              #15
                              well, did quite a bit of work yesterday.....

                              replaced the fused link in the trunk, (TIP: BMW tells me that this is a 50AMP fuse)
                              organized the trunk and completed the tool kit, (TIP: Will satisfy your OCD)
                              got the aftermarket electric fan working properly,
                              fixed a sticky throttle cable,
                              fixed a minor clearance issue in the engine belt system (Tip: if you remove the a/c pulley from the crank pulley, use shorter bolts, or add a washer to the pulley bolts to account for the loss of thickness of the a/c pulley),
                              dropped the rear subframe,
                              cleaned and painted it,
                              replaced the subframe bushings and RTAB bushings with the solid bushings from CSS, (TIP: be mindful of aligning the mounting brackets that sit under the mounts when installed. Im not sure if this is a m3-only part, or non-m e30s have it too)
                              Replaced an axle, (TIP: 30mm axle nut)
                              Upgraded to e36/7 finned mcoupe diff cover (TIP: you will need additional hardware, stock e30 diff cover uses different bolts)
                              Replaced the diff bushing with a solid bushing from CSS,
                              modified the engine harness holder to hold the e36 harness for a really clean look, (TIP: the e36 harness has more wires and is thicker, but if planned properly, you can get it to fit in the stock e30 m3 harness cover)
                              reinstalled the eibach strut bar, (TIP: best to fully uninstall the bar, not just the middle section. Reinstall is a bitch if its been off for a while when replacing the subframe and motor with this setup. You will not get the bolts lined up without taking the entire unit off.)
                              Installed new wiper blades, (TIP: order wiper blades from me - I get OEM bosch units for $5 a piece. Best $10 I've spent on the car.)
                              reconnected the parking lights, replaced the bulbs and lightly smoked the lenses. (TIP: don't go to dark initially. Add a layer at a time and recheck color on the car, or you will end up with lights that are too dark)
                              Installed AKG rear shock tow hooks.


                              The car is really coming together. Currently having a couple other issues I would like to get some assistance on...:

                              1. coolant gauge on the cluster doesn't work - nando says that the wiring harness adapter is wired for it to work.. How do I get it to register with an s50 on the e30 m3 cluster?

                              2. car idles right at 1400rpm (a bit high for my taste...) Does the ecu need to see the car driving to calibrate idle rpm with the ICV, or will it learn by just idling on the lift? If so, how long does that take? Is it something else like having to adjust the throttle body or throttle cable?

                              3."brake lining" light is on and the 3rd brake light is constantly illuminated. are these two issues connected? I noticed that all the orange brake sensor plugs have corroded and broken apart over the decades. Maybe that is the issue? Can I buy new connectors without having to replace the entire wiring harness?

                              4. I currently do not have the coolant level sensor hooked up to my coolant tank, but I'm not getting a low coolant light. Does the e30 cluster have a low coolant light? Is it even necessary to hook up the sensor? Can I get this to be functional?

                              5. I got the parking lights to work, but the turn signals/hazard lights do not work. Any idea where to start on that? WHere is the wiring harness for that?

                              6. occasionally when coming abruptly off the gas, the motor sounds like its loosing spark/ignition cut for a brief second. Of course, this is with the car running-off the ground on a lift, so the "Anti lock" message comes on. Would that create some type of fuel cut/ignition cut, etc?


                              Thank you!
                              Last edited by m3j0n; 06-07-2014, 09:14 PM.

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