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  • pazi88
    E30 Addict
    • Sep 2015
    • 584

    #16
    Originally posted by mr2peak
    So both Aluminum blocks have the later TU style crank?
    Sorry I may have misread your message. These blocks I have, had the old crank with crack sensor at the front of the engine. If you look closely, there is place for the rear crank sensor in casting of those blocks. But in -96 block that hasn't even been drilled and in -97 it's drilled through but has blocking plate. I mean that most of the aluminium m52 blocks have the same style crank as in old m50 iron blocks. But not all. At least in EU the some -98 blocks only have the TU style crank with trigger wheel at the back of the crank. Is the crank sensor in which end of the engine in US versions? I have no idea about that. But that seems to determine which kind of crank the engine has.
    Last edited by pazi88; 12-04-2015, 03:03 AM.

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    • Bimmer_man
      E30 Fanatic
      • Jan 2013
      • 1477

      #17
      im just curious what the weight difference is.
      Float like a cadillac sting like a Bimmer!:)

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      • pazi88
        E30 Addict
        • Sep 2015
        • 584

        #18
        Originally posted by Bimmer_man
        im just curious what the weight difference is.
        BMW fans shows litle bit over 20kg difference between cast iron and aluminium block.

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        • megatron
          Advanced Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 152

          #19
          I measured ~50lbs (~23kg) on a bathroom scale between bare US aluminum M52 block and bare US S52 block.

          Here's a pic of the crank from a US aluminum M52 I assembled where you can see the location of the toothed wheel.

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          • Wanganstyle
            R3VLimited
            • Apr 2010
            • 2828

            #20
            Originally posted by Tippey764
            In the US the only m52 aluminum blocks came in 97-98 Z3 2.8's.
            M52TU is an aluminum block and came in:

            e39 528i
            e46 328i

            its very cheap/common/lightweight and makes the same power as a Iron block M52b28 when setup with identical everything; No real difference in labor between starting from m52b28 or m52TUb28 when doing a 24v swap really.

            as far as weight difference? the nose of the car lifted 20mm with change to aluminum engine from iron block (s52)
            OBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25

            Z4 non powered steering rack fits e30



            Euro e46 2005/6 320d 6mt gearbox into E30 with M20 hardy and beck 1985 327s engine

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            • digger
              R3V Elite
              • Nov 2005
              • 5917

              #21
              20mm? that seems a little excessive height difference. the bare block in cast iron would be what 50kg tops. if youre lucky you get a 25kg saving from block going to alloy. spring rate at front is easily 200lb/inch for pair of stock crappy springs so you should be looking at 0.25" as a ball park back of the envelope calc. if you pulled the whole engine out i could see a bit over an inch rise. this is just numbers i pulled from my head but something seems off
              89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

              new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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              • Wanganstyle
                R3VLimited
                • Apr 2010
                • 2828

                #22
                Originally posted by digger
                20mm? that seems a little excessive height difference. the bare block in cast iron would be what 50kg tops. if youre lucky you get a 25kg saving from block going to alloy. spring rate at front is easily 200lb/inch for pair of stock crappy springs so you should be looking at 0.25". if you pulled the whole engine out i could see a bit over an inch rise. this is just numbers i pulled from my head but something seems off

                Eyeball guesstimate; I can stack 50lbs of weight on top the engine now and measure how low it drops?


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                OBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25

                Z4 non powered steering rack fits e30



                Euro e46 2005/6 320d 6mt gearbox into E30 with M20 hardy and beck 1985 327s engine

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                • E30 Wagen
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 3425

                  #23
                  Are all the aluminum m52 blocks found in 97-98 Z3s iron sleeved?
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                  • digger
                    R3V Elite
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 5917

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Wanganstyle
                    Eyeball guesstimate; I can stack 50lbs of weight on top the engine now and measure how low it drops?


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                    yeah, my bet is it wont move anywhere near 20mm
                    89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                    new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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