c101 and x20 wire diagram (e30 M50 adapter)

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  • FredK
    R3V OG
    • Oct 2003
    • 14745

    #61
    Thanks!

    Sorry to hear about your track mishap. It sounds like you have a pretty sweet replacement lined up!

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    • Bimmer335is
      Advanced Member
      • Jun 2006
      • 146

      #62
      '87 c101 connection to s50 wiring harness

      I read through the entire 50 or so page swap thread and found nothing helpful for me with s50 wiring in an '87 325is. It doesn't help because some of the wires don't match the '88-'90, some of them aren't used on my c101.

      this is what I have.

      '87 E30 connector, engine side.

      1 Blue
      2 Blue/White
      3 Not used
      4 Brown
      5 Brown/Green
      6 Green/White
      7 Green
      8 Not used
      9 Not used
      10 Blue/Yellow
      11 White/Green
      12 Grey mated to a brown
      13 Green/Purple
      14 Not used
      15 Not used
      16 White/Black
      17 Not used
      18 Black/Yellow
      19 Not used
      20 Not used

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      • Mike B.
        E30 Modder
        • Jan 2006
        • 987

        #63
        If you need a copy of the ETM to track down the functions of these wires, let me know and I will send you a copy for the '87.

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        • Bimmer335is
          Advanced Member
          • Jun 2006
          • 146

          #64
          that would help me out greatly.

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          • Mike B.
            E30 Modder
            • Jan 2006
            • 987

            #65
            PM me your email address.

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            • Bimmer335is
              Advanced Member
              • Jun 2006
              • 146

              #66
              pm'd

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              • triggrhaapi
                Grease Monkey
                • Feb 2007
                • 350

                #67
                Originally posted by Bimmer335is
                I read through the entire 50 or so page swap thread and found nothing helpful for me with s50 wiring in an '87 325is. It doesn't help because some of the wires don't match the '88-'90, some of them aren't used on my c101.

                this is what I have.

                '87 E30 connector, engine side.

                1 Blue
                2 Blue/White
                3 Not used
                4 Brown
                5 Brown/Green
                6 Green/White
                7 Green
                8 Not used
                9 Not used
                10 Blue/Yellow
                11 White/Green
                12 Grey mated to a brown
                13 Green/Purple
                14 Not used
                15 Not used
                16 White/Black
                17 Not used
                18 Black/Yellow
                19 Not used
                20 Not used
                I think our cars use a modified early E30 M3 connector, the missing connections are in the glovebox on the C103 connector. I'm hoping this is the solution to my problem. This is the only known harness missing 8,9,14,15 and all functions seem to be moved to the C103 connection.

                Hope this helps you!!
                1987 BMW 325is | Frankenmotor S50 | Supersprint Replica Headers | K&N Intake | Gutted Stock Midpipe | Zimmermann Rotors | Stainless Brake Lines | Porterfield Racing Pads

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                • PiercedE30
                  R3V Elite
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 4220

                  #68
                  Heres mine:
                  1990 325is to 1992 525i
                  C101 - Function - X20
                  1 - Alternator - 25
                  2 - Oil Level (static) - 1
                  3 - Not Used
                  4 - Coolant Temp (gauge) - 12
                  5 - Oil Pressure Switch - 23
                  6 - 12v feed for diagnostic plug - 22
                  7 - Ignition (switched) - 21
                  8 - Fuel Economy - 24
                  9 - Engine Speed (tach) - 20
                  10 - Oil Level (dynamic) - 2
                  11 - SI Reset - 7
                  12 - CEL - 8
                  13 - Fuel Pump Relay - 13
                  14 - Speed Signal - 14
                  15 - Starter (unloader relay) - 15
                  16 - Diagnostic Plug - 19
                  17 - Not Used
                  18 - Voltage during start - 18
                  19 - Not Used
                  20 - ABS - 3
                  My 2.9L Build!

                  Originally posted by Ernest Hemingway
                  There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.

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                  • triggrhaapi
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 350

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Rev Engineer
                    Here's my wiring contribution for an s50 -> e30 m3 swap - might also help the m50 and 325i people.




                    Confirmed, just now!! This is the correct wiring layout for the 87 325is. The C103 connector looks kinda like a 12v power connection from the inside of a computer case.

                    EDIT: Thanks Rev Engineer, you saved me a huge migraine headache, which I would have had if I had to try to read the electrical wiring diagram PDF for another minute.
                    Last edited by triggrhaapi; 05-08-2007, 11:33 PM.
                    1987 BMW 325is | Frankenmotor S50 | Supersprint Replica Headers | K&N Intake | Gutted Stock Midpipe | Zimmermann Rotors | Stainless Brake Lines | Porterfield Racing Pads

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                    • Jason89i
                      E30 Modder
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 875

                      #70
                      typo.....pin 13 to 13 for older cars.

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                      • kylebes1
                        R3VLimited
                        • May 2004
                        • 2804

                        #71
                        So did you get your car running?

                        I have seen people forget the ground strap. If you did that you will get nothing when you turn the key.

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                        • matt
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 3731

                          #72
                          Originally posted by kylebes1
                          So did you get your car running?

                          I have seen people forget the ground strap. If you did that you will get nothing when you turn the key.
                          Usually when the large ground strap is missing, the starter solenoid will click but the starter won't turn.

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                          • triggrhaapi
                            Grease Monkey
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 350

                            #73
                            Originally posted by kylebes1
                            So did you get your car running?

                            I have seen people forget the ground strap. If you did that you will get nothing when you turn the key.
                            Which ground straps? You mean on the motor itself or on the harness? The motor has the grounds on the coils already, the harness isn't back from the electrician who's doing the work. Clearly if the chassis ground on the harness isn't grounded there's no juice to work with, ditto the coils.
                            1987 BMW 325is | Frankenmotor S50 | Supersprint Replica Headers | K&N Intake | Gutted Stock Midpipe | Zimmermann Rotors | Stainless Brake Lines | Porterfield Racing Pads

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                            • asubimmer
                              R3V OG
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 6482

                              #74
                              I found the m42 plug info and I'm tryin to look at the m20 stuff and apply it to the m42 swap. this is what I have got for the m42 right now (if you see something that is wrong please let me know):


                              I'm not sure what to do with pin #6 and 7 on the m42 side. They are "#6 terminal 15 w/ fuse, #7 terminal 15 w/out fuse". Does anyone know what they should go to on the e36 side? Or even what they are lol.
                              Last edited by asubimmer; 05-19-2007, 12:25 PM.
                              ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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                              • asubimmer
                                R3V OG
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 6482

                                #75
                                after looking a little more I came up w/ this...better or worse?



                                also does anyone have the pin readout for the m50 plug so I know what pin is #1 etc. I need to know what pins are what on that plug.
                                Last edited by asubimmer; 05-19-2007, 12:25 PM.
                                ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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