Rod knock? Loud lifters? Exhaust leak? What do you think

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  • FireFight
    E30 Fanatic
    • Mar 2012
    • 1367

    #1

    Rod knock? Loud lifters? Exhaust leak? What do you think

    Got my engine in, running, exhaust built, fired it up and this
    Sorry, we couldn’t find that page

    So low down on the motor, I pulled it 2 years back from a running car, no noises, it sat in a garage with out oil for about 2-3 years.
    Motor in, 20w50 oil, running with open headers I didn't hear any noise.
    Built the exhaust, fire it up and take it for a spin.when I come back I hear this noise.
    First in thinking knock, but I have read a bunch of stuff on the lifters going bad and making a lot of noise.
    The noise sounds to be upper but that could just be me hoping.
    I'm also thinking maybe an exhaust leak?

    Thoughts?



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  • M3PO
    E30 Addict
    • May 2012
    • 537

    #2
    When you swapped the pan, did it have a baffle riveted into the shallow part? If I remember correctly, that can hit the crank.

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    • Panici
      Moderator
      • Dec 2009
      • 2313

      #3
      Originally posted by M3PO
      When you swapped the pan, did it have a baffle riveted into the shallow part? If I remember correctly, that can hit the crank.
      I have no first hand experience with this, so take it with a grain of salt.
      The sound I hear in the video seems like a thin piece of metal being rubbed, which would support your theory.

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      • berlow94
        E30 Enthusiast
        • Jan 2013
        • 1063

        #4
        I disagree with the oil weight being the cause of loud lifters.
        I run liqui-moly racetech 10w60. I have never gotten any noise out of my lifters. (I also don't have much left from the stock oiling system).

        I would guess oil pan baffle installed wrong.

        The answer won't be on here though... Start taking shit apart again!
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        • plain325
          Advanced Member
          • Mar 2004
          • 163

          #5
          How long of a ride did you take it on? My engine was very noisy for a while after I first started it. The lifters seem to take a while to pump up.

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          • Northern
            R3V Elite
            • Nov 2010
            • 5041

            #6
            This is what the windage tray interference sounds like. While it's an S50b32, it should be similar enough for comparison.

            Thanks to Eric for taking the video in the first place.

            Originally posted by priapism
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            Originally posted by shameson
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            • Northern
              R3V Elite
              • Nov 2010
              • 5041

              #7
              In case you can't visualize what is going on:

              Originally posted by priapism
              My girl don't know shit, but she bakes a mean cupcake.
              Originally posted by shameson
              Usually it's best not to know how much money you have into your e30

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              • FireFight
                E30 Fanatic
                • Mar 2012
                • 1367

                #8
                Originally posted by Northern
                In case you can't visualize what is going on:

                so the e34 pan could have pushed that tray up? I left that tray on because I assumed it would prevent oil starvation(?).
                Last edited by FireFight; 12-06-2016, 01:07 PM.
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                • FireFight
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 1367

                  #9
                  Jesus, I never even heard of this, I thought I did so much reading hahahaha. well looks like that SOB is getting pulled again
                  Last edited by FireFight; 12-06-2016, 01:07 PM.
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                  • FireFight
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 1367

                    #10
                    Whats recommended to do with the bracket that holds the e36 oil pump pick up?
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                    • BMW_TUNER
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 1377

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FireFight
                      Whats recommended to do with the bracket that holds the e36 oil pump pick up?
                      Get rid of it.
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                      • dude8383
                        Forum Sponsor
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 10387

                        #12
                        That's exactly what happened to me when I built my first motor lol... Did an M50 with M52 internals but used the m50 windage tray lol!

                        Here's my thread from back in the day:



                        Last few posts are the discovery haha.

                        Goodluck!
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                        • FireFight
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 1367

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dude8383
                          That's exactly what happened to me when I built my first motor lol... Did an M50 with M52 internals but used the m50 windage tray lol!

                          Here's my thread from back in the day:



                          Last few posts are the discovery haha.

                          Goodluck!
                          Hahah man, something so small and stupid has had me lose all my motivation for this swap, I as of yesterday was planning on tossing the m20 back in thinking it was a fucked motor haha.
                          looks like im gonna keep it going then.


                          Thanks everyone!
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                          Zachary Ripley

                          85 318i M50B25tu.
                          92 525it 5 speed.
                          80 244gl (m60 prepping).

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                          • Northern
                            R3V Elite
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 5041

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FireFight
                            so the e34 pan could have pushed that tray up? I left that tray on because I assumed it would prevent oil starvation(?).
                            Different trays fit different cranks. If you have one on the block and one in the pan, then yes it may have pushed it up.


                            Originally posted by FireFight
                            Whats recommended to do with the bracket that holds the e36 oil pump pick up?
                            Bend it back/forth to work harden it until it snaps off. If you unbolt it you need new main bolts, and if you grind it off you'll leave little bits of steel swarf everywhere.
                            Originally posted by priapism
                            My girl don't know shit, but she bakes a mean cupcake.
                            Originally posted by shameson
                            Usually it's best not to know how much money you have into your e30

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                            • luckysnafu
                              Wrencher
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 262

                              #15
                              I'll join the incorrect oil baffle crew. I ran into the same thing with my last engine swap. Videos and pictures of my experience here - http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=318365
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