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  • haaken675
    Mod Crazy
    • Sep 2016
    • 601

    #1

    Solid mounts a bad idea?

    Just got my bonus and looking to order all the parts needed to at least get the motor in my car. I am trying to decide on motor mounts at the moment. I know I am not ordering revshift.

    I have so far seen the AKG solid aluminum mounts, and the Condor Speed Shop delrin and solid mounts.

    Any feedback on these or a suggestion on another route? I have searched and didn't come up with anything useful.
  • bumada
    Grease Monkey
    • Apr 2015
    • 305

    #2
    I have the Condor Speed Shop mounts. No complaints about them. I don't really care too much about the vibration as the car was built to be tracked. I also have solid mounts throughout the driveline. Solid mounts are also a good insurance against the motor lurching into the radiator (although it shouldn't happen with the e28 mounts either).
    1989 325i S50 swapped
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    • haaken675
      Mod Crazy
      • Sep 2016
      • 601

      #3
      Originally posted by bumada
      I have the Condor Speed Shop mounts. No complaints about them. I don't really care too much about the vibration as the car was built to be tracked. I also have solid mounts throughout the driveline. Solid mounts are also a good insurance against the motor lurching into the radiator (although it shouldn't happen with the e28 mounts either).
      awesome, thanks for the input!

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      • agent
        Vice Grand Pubaa
        • Mar 2010
        • 7960

        #4
        If you're going to drive the car on the street, solid mounts are a bad idea if you care at all about NVH.
        Originally posted by kronus
        would be in depending on tip slant and tube size

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        • ak-
          R3V OG
          • May 2009
          • 12422

          #5
          I have poly motor mounts and regular oem trans mounts.

          The only vibration I notice/feel is when I tip-in throttle to get the car moving, and it's really minor. I don't feel any vibes anywhere else in the spectrum of driving.

          No exp. with solid, though.

          1991 325iS turbo

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          • haaken675
            Mod Crazy
            • Sep 2016
            • 601

            #6
            I ordered the condor speed shop delrin motor and trans mount with their transmission brace. They had a package with it all together. I guess ill see how it goes. This will not be a daily kind of car anyways, so I don't think any additional NVH will be a big deal for me.

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            • luckysnafu
              Wrencher
              • Jun 2008
              • 262

              #7
              I installed the condor motor mounts on my car, both the engine and trans mounts. Didn't like all the vibration through the trans mounts so I went back to OEM. Much happier with the solid engine mounts and OEM trans mounts. I'd suggest installing both since you bought the package and seeing if you like it, then swap out the trans mounts for less vibration if desired.
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              • Klug
                E30 Modder
                • Sep 2011
                • 804

                #8
                Originally posted by luckysnafu
                I installed the condor motor mounts on my car, both the engine and trans mounts. Didn't like all the vibration through the trans mounts so I went back to OEM. Much happier with the solid engine mounts and OEM trans mounts. I'd suggest installing both since you bought the package and seeing if you like it, then swap out the trans mounts for less vibration if desired.
                This. I did the same exact thing....those solid tranny mounts drove me up the wall.
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                • exhaust
                  E30 Addict
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 411

                  #9
                  I'm running OEM rubber on the entire drive line. (E28 engine mounts). No vibrations, no shakes, doesn't flex when I get on it and is nice and comfortable. My car is purely for the street so take that into consideration. If I was tracking it I would have gone poly.

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                  • Northern
                    R3V Elite
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5045

                    #10
                    I was lucky enough to experience condor engine/trans swap mounts and Condor Engine+OE trans mounts on a car before I swapped mine.

                    The Condor engine mounts add very little NVH over poly mounts, but for trans mounts I'd go with either OEM e30, or e21 if you want a little bit of an upgrade.
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                    • MR E30 325is
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 3299

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Northern
                      I was lucky enough to experience condor engine/trans swap mounts and Condor Engine+OE trans mounts on a car before I swapped mine.

                      The Condor engine mounts add very little NVH over poly mounts, but for trans mounts I'd go with either OEM e30, or e21 if you want a little bit of an upgrade.
                      Seconded
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                      • redlightpete
                        Wrencher
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 260

                        #12
                        What performance benefit are solid motor mounts supposed to provide?

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                        • SmokeE30
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 1730

                          #13
                          Originally posted by redlightpete
                          What performance benefit are solid motor mounts supposed to provide?
                          aside from keeping the motor where you want it in tight clearance situations the reduced flex results in less power lost rotating the engine on the rubber mounts. that being said, I am personally not a fan of them on the street as NVH is a concern and i have seen them cause trans mounting ears break off, on street cars that is.
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                          • AndrewBird
                            The Mad Scientist
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 11892

                            #14
                            Racers usually use solid mounts to prevent mis-shifting due to the engine/transmission moving around under heavy load. On a street car, there is no advantage and will only add NVH.

                            Harder than stock mounts need to be checked often as they are more susceptible to damage or causing damage because energy is not absorbed but transferred by them.

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