So you guys think the treehouse wiring adapter is clean?

[matt]

I did the same as Rev Engineer, but the best way to do it is as the thread starter suggested-- although I would modify the e30 side as to keep the engine harness intact.

I'm going to get the parts to do this eventually, too.

You'd modify the car side, which has wires running through the whole car's wiring harness and would be impossible to replace vs the engine harness you can get for $100 all day long? :loco:

[Brew]

Yup. I'm freaking crazy like that.

[FredK]

and the male pins are 05 CIRCULAR CONNECTOR D=2,5/0,5-1,5 ? 61131376191

For some reason, when I ordered 61131376191, I was told it was superseded by 61130007452, which is the same pin but with flying leads attached.

So, I ordered AMP 929967-1 which the equivalent AMP part number. Geometrically it's the same as the BMW pin, though I am not sure of what the BMW pins are made of or the plating material. The AMP piece is CuNiSi with tin plating.

Normally, at Newark, it's a non-stock item, but it just so happens they still have like 2700 pieces left.

I have access to an AMP crimp tool, so hopefully I can clean up my embarassingly messy wiring harness up this week. :mrgreen:

[matt]

Blast from the past. I'm glad I quit patting myself on the back like this.

PS. You were lied to by your parts guys... Those part numbers don't supersede each other at all. In fact, there are 253 of the 191s in two of BMWs warehouses. List is $.53 each. In fact, there are about 20 of them sitting on my bench at work...

[FredK]

Dang. I ordered from Tischer BMW and they did not allow me to order the pins under the 191 part number. I paid $0.53 at Newark. Realoem says nothing about the 191 PN being superseded by the 452 PN either. ARGH.

[Jason89i]

dont forget, there are different pin #'s for 3 different wire sizes. buy the right pin for the corresponding wire size.

ive done this on a couple swaps. definately the cleanest way of doing it.

ps, dont forget to buy a wire crimp. using needle nose pliers can lead to a loose wire in the pin.


cheers, jason

[FredK]

^ Yep. I was able to get the other pins for the larger wires from Tischer (193 and 195).

[woky]

dont forget, there are different pin #'s for 3 different wire sizes. buy the right pin for the corresponding wire size.

ive done this on a couple swaps. definately the cleanest way of doing it.

ps, dont forget to buy a wire crimp. using needle nose pliers can lead to a loose wire in the pin.


cheers, jason

What's the correct wire crimper for these?

[Dominic49]

sounds about right

dont mind the dirt crimpers, its been a long day

[Dominic49]

What's the correct wire crimper for these?

http://www.paladin-tools.com/view_tool.php?id=405&parent_id=182

does standard butt connectors

but when paired with a PA2035 die you have a lean mean ratcheting crimping machine!

[matt]

Dom, did you get the pin tool from BMW? If there is a cheaper place... I would love to know it.

[Dominic49]

Dom, did you get the pin tool from BMW? If there is a cheaper place... I would love to know it.

i got it from bmw it's either a trade secret or a special licensed size for bmw i looked for it everywhere and purchased a couple wrong sized ones ( you can see the small one next to it which works great on the connector for the transmission on auto harnesses btw....) but if you need one i can get employee pricing at global on small things of this nature.

p.s. the v8 is going in tommmororw after school or Thursday so i should be up to y'all in a couple weeks after i get a driveshaft made and work up a set of headers, and finish the obd1 conversion for some tuneage (lethal injection owes me a bunch of dyno time) :D

[madjurgen]

http://www.paladin-tools.com/view_to...&parent_id=180

pa2035 is the die part number

Crimper you posted is a 1600 series. Die 2035 is stated to only work with CrimpALL®/8000 & 1300 Series frames.

[Dominic49]

Crimper you posted is a 1600 series. Die 2035 is stated to only work with CrimpALL®/8000 & 1300 Series frames.

ooops i'll fix it >.<

[madjurgen]

But I will tell you that the tool set to get the pins out of the connectors is $867.50 and the tool set to crimp and install the pins onto the wires is $652.50.

Matt

I'm still confused about this statement. Why the need for the expensive BMW pin tool? Aren't I buying a new bare engine side C101 and new male pins? Buy the crimper/die set listed above, install new male pins on e36 wires and stick into engine side C101? What am I missing? Im honestly confused not trying to be sarcastic btw.

I thought this summed it up nicely:

http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showpost.php?p=582965&postcount=16