Road Bearing break-in period? (help)

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  • alifsyz
    Noobie
    • Jun 2017
    • 19

    #1

    Road Bearing break-in period? (help)

    I am about to replace my busted rod bearings on my M50. I was wondering if there is a break-in period for the rod bearings, as some knowledgeable people suggest going 5000KMs then an oil change. All the help is much appreciated. Thanks!
  • ForcedFirebird
    R3V OG
    • Feb 2007
    • 8300

    #2
    I never sweat the rod bearing break in. I have built countless race motors and put them on the track right after the build, and breaking in the rings/cam.
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    • wworm
      E30 Mastermind
      • Dec 2016
      • 1719

      #3
      Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
      I never sweat the rod bearing break in. I have built countless race motors and put them on the track right after the build, and breaking in the rings/cam.
      What kind of ring/cam break in period do you usually run?
      1984 Delphin 318i 2 door

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      • ForcedFirebird
        R3V OG
        • Feb 2007
        • 8300

        #4
        High idle for ~20 min after initial warm up with break in oil (or oil with high zddp). Then lots of engine braking for a good 30-40min (drive until ~6000rpm in 2nd, let engine slow car, downshift to 1st, let engine slow car, rinse and repeat). Change and inspect oil. Do a race practice at 80%, change oil, then go beat the snot out of it.
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        • alifsyz
          Noobie
          • Jun 2017
          • 19

          #5
          Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
          High idle for ~20 min after initial warm up with break in oil (or oil with high zddp). Then lots of engine braking for a good 30-40min (drive until ~6000rpm in 2nd, let engine slow car, downshift to 1st, let engine slow car, rinse and repeat). Change and inspect oil. Do a race practice at 80%, change oil, then go beat the snot out of it.
          I heard from one of my friends that they broke their new rod bearings after an extensive hooning session right after replacing it. Do you think this is because of something else? Thanks.

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          • ForcedFirebird
            R3V OG
            • Feb 2007
            • 8300

            #6
            Originally posted by alifsyz
            I heard from one of my friends that they broke their new rod bearings after an extensive hooning session right after replacing it. Do you think this is because of something else? Thanks.
            Not trying to be difficult or blunt, but my experiemce says otherwise.

            Think about it. If you buy a brand new car, go hoon around in it, how often do you hear of failures?
            john@m20guru.com
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            • digger
              R3V Elite
              • Nov 2005
              • 5936

              #7
              What could "breaking in" a rod bearing possibly do ? It's a hydrodynamic lubricated bearing. The surfaces of the journal and bearing shell do not need to wear in together unlike rings, valve seats, cam followers, gears, etc
              89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

              new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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              • alifsyz
                Noobie
                • Jun 2017
                • 19

                #8
                Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
                Not trying to be difficult or blunt, but my experiemce says otherwise.

                Think about it. If you buy a brand new car, go hoon around in it, how often do you hear of failures?
                Could it be misassembly then?

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                • alifsyz
                  Noobie
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 19

                  #9
                  Originally posted by digger
                  What could "breaking in" a rod bearing possibly do ? It's a hydrodynamic lubricated bearing. The surfaces of the journal and bearing shell do not need to wear in together unlike rings, valve seats, cam followers, gears, etc
                  Thanks man! Very informative.

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                  • ForcedFirebird
                    R3V OG
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 8300

                    #10
                    Originally posted by alifsyz
                    Could it be misassembly then?

                    More than likely. Bearing clearance is critical. On the m5x/s5x (except s54 and Euro s50), and m20 which all use the same rod bearings, you should have a clearance between .001 and .0015" (.025mm-.031mm).
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