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  • asubimmer
    R3V OG
    • Jul 2004
    • 6482

    #1

    24v swap engine mounts

    So people go with the e28 green's for the swap. The m42 guys have fluid filled engine mounts and swap to the e28 green's. So will the m42 ones work? Not that I want to use the fluid filled ones, but what about the urethane m42 mounts? Does that make the e28 urethane's the same as the m42 urethanes? There is a company CARR in gboro that sells them both and they both look like this...



    Also is it worth it to go w/ the urethanes over the stock rubber green's? I hear that the green's aren't toooo strong?
    ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold
  • bdi_fc
    Wrencher
    • May 2006
    • 273

    #2
    I used the e28 M5 mounts and the motor doesn't move.

    You can definitely feel the vibration. I'd almost recommend using something less firm.
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    • asubimmer
      R3V OG
      • Jul 2004
      • 6482

      #3
      good to know, maybe I'll stick to the green's then. Anyone else?
      ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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      • LINUS
        R3VLimited
        • Jul 2004
        • 2422

        #4
        Interesting idea. I wish the threaded portion of the green mounts were longer on the subframe side. If that urethane one is, I'd think about running one to prevent the mount from pulling through from torque lift, but I haven't seen this is a rampant problem so maybe the way it is works fine. I am a 'worst case scenario' type anyhow.

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        • matt
          No R3VLimiter
          • Oct 2003
          • 3731

          #5
          Originally posted by LINUS
          Interesting idea. I wish the threaded portion of the green mounts were longer on the subframe side. If that urethane one is, I'd think about running one to prevent the mount from pulling through from torque lift, but I haven't seen this is a rampant problem so maybe the way it is works fine. I am a 'worst case scenario' type anyhow.
          I have never had a problem with the green ones, I installed them as stock and they fit great. No cutting, no notching, no grinding off tabs.

          Now, if someone wants a stiffer option, I HIGHLY recommend checking out Vorshlag. In the near future, they will be coming out with a product specifically for the e30/M50.

          I have not seen any urethane or solid motor mounts that will work. It's not as simple as just copying the green ones in solid something-or-other since the green ones have a bit of give to them. You need to actually make the mounts different, which Vorshlag is working on now.

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          • asubimmer
            R3V OG
            • Jul 2004
            • 6482

            #6
            yeah the urethanes are shaped diff than the green's, weird
            ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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            • matt
              No R3VLimiter
              • Oct 2003
              • 3731

              #7
              I don't think the one in the pic will work properly, depending on the height. Maybe if you mounted them funky in the subframe or slotted the subframe holes... the studs need to be spaced differently when the mount is solid. I have some pics that explain what I mean, but I'm not sure if the guys at Vorshlag would appreciate me posting their prototypes on the net. Trust me though, these are really nice pieces.

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              • BeirBrennerE30
                R3VLimited
                • Oct 2003
                • 2740

                #8
                you NEED to reinforce your front subframe if you use urathane motormounts... just throwing that out there...

                The greens work fine for me and are a perfect height and fit. They sit the engine as low as I would feel comfortable putting it
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                • asubimmer
                  R3V OG
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 6482

                  #9
                  matt do you know about how long till they are done?
                  ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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                  • dougsic
                    Wrencher
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 284

                    #10
                    Originally posted by matt
                    I have never had a problem with the green ones, I installed them as stock and they fit great. No cutting, no notching, no grinding off tabs.
                    :up:

                    I have the stock green e28 M5 mounts in my turbocharged e28 M5. 3.8 liters, coil-on-plug, Schrick cam, 12 injectors, TEC3 6/12, Quaife rear.

                    The engine mounts have never failed.

                    And they are cheap.

                    Why would you want anything else?

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                    • Mr Deagle
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 1121

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dougsic
                      :up:

                      I have the stock green e28 M5 mounts in my turbocharged e28 M5. 3.8 liters, coil-on-plug, Schrick cam, 12 injectors, TEC3 6/12, Quaife rear.

                      The engine mounts have never failed.

                      And they are cheap.

                      Why would you want anything else?

                      You sir are smart, oem ftmfw

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                      • matt
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 3731

                        #12
                        Originally posted by asubimmer
                        matt do you know about how long till they are done?
                        Nope. I should be done with my part next week, I think.

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                        • mazur
                          Mod Crazy
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 731

                          #13
                          Oh, so you guys aren't using extra washers with the green mounts to raise them?

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                          • matt
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 3731

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mazur
                            Oh, so you guys aren't using extra washers with the green mounts to raise them?
                            Oh, I forgot to mention that. Yes, I am.

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                            • dougsic
                              Wrencher
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 284

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mazur
                              Oh, so you guys aren't using extra washers with the green mounts to raise them?
                              I am not using any washers to raise the engine. But I might be tomorrow!

                              Installing headers in the morning and I can't see how they are ever going to fit if I don't.

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