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    #16
    Yea, I DEFINITELY want their 290/290 cams....... :drool
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      #17
      Originally posted by madjurgen View Post
      Wait till evosport finalizes their cams, should be quite a bit better than sunbelts. With unfinished tuning they were at 284rwhp on a IP legal motor.

      http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...2&postcount=20
      if i read correctly, that was on 104 octane... i'm waiting to see what they'll do on 91.

      either way, fi is up my alley.
      91 m3

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        #18
        Originally posted by 325Projectz View Post
        if i read correctly, that was on 104 octane... i'm waiting to see what they'll do on 91.

        Thats true, forgot about that. For a DD, FI makes sense but for a trackcar these are perfect.

        Makes me wish I wouldve just put a built 24v in a 2200lb e30 and had fun in DM for not much $.

        As time went on, the factory developed the car each year, making it faster, more comfortable, and capable of handling at higher speeds.
        You don’t want this. You want the trickiest, most dangerous, oldest model you can find. Only then can you prove to the world that you’re a man.

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          #19
          for a track car, 100%. almost every reply in that thread are track/auto x dudes.

          if i had all kinds of money to waste, i'd love to build a nasty n/a motor fuh street raze.
          91 m3

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            #20
            Anybody have an Idea how much the evosport cams will cost?

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              #21
              $2000 tentatively, not sure if that will include the retainers and springs also necessary. Call them up, there phone number is on the website

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                #22
                If they're selling them as IP cams, they work with stock springs etc. Only cams are free in Prepared classes.

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                  #23
                  yeah, later in the thread it is clarified how it is still IP legal even though the springs and retainers are custom. The exact words on the retainers were "same weight and material and stock." But they must be different somehow--otherwise, how would you rev to 8500? Maybe same material but different heat treatment?

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                    #24
                    Oh shit!!??!! How the s2k guys would whimper. Two more cylinders with aprox. 60% more displacment, w/ only a -500rpm tradeoff. Thats insanity.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by FredK View Post
                      yeah, later in the thread it is clarified how it is still IP legal even though the springs and retainers are custom. The exact words on the retainers were "same weight and material and stock." But they must be different somehow--otherwise, how would you rev to 8500? Maybe same material but different heat treatment?
                      Hmm... that's different material in my book.

                      I stay out of the cam threads, lately... techno gets off on that stuff though. He can't stand people posting wrong shit.

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                        #26
                        Here's a thread with my results - there is a mod list there as well:


                        It's probably a little on the low side of what the motor is actually making now. I had the wrong injectors for the tune, which was more than likely throwing things off.

                        Around ~230-240 to the wheels is realistic for that setup. As you can see from the dyno graphs - it's really "useable" power with a wide curve, hardly "peaky" at all. (You may loose some of that low-end with your aggressive cams, with the advantage of higher peak numbers.)

                        Check out this dyno thread on BF - very good for comparisions:
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by grib View Post
                          Here's a thread with my results - there is a mod list there as well:


                          It's probably a little on the low side of what the motor is actually making now. I had the wrong injectors for the tune, which was more than likely throwing things off.

                          Around ~230-240 to the wheels is realistic for that setup. As you can see from the dyno graphs - it's really "useable" power with a wide curve, hardly "peaky" at all. (You may loose some of that low-end with your aggressive cams, with the advantage of higher peak numbers.)

                          Check out this dyno thread on BF - very good for comparisions:
                          http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=454142
                          well, I was hoping to shoot for 240 rwhp without cams, I am not too sure if that's attainable now.. guess we'll have to sit and wait!

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Ali//325i View Post
                            well, I was hoping to shoot for 240 rwhp without cams, I am not too sure if that's attainable now.. guess we'll have to sit and wait!
                            I hear ya, that's what I was hoping for as well. (And who knows, that might be what the engine is actually putting out now with the correct setup. I have not taken the time to have it dyno'd again since fixing that problem...)

                            If you check our the BimmerForums thread - I think 240 is attainable from an S52 without cams. It's just at the high end of the spectrum, so if you only actually put down 230-235 don't sweat it.

                            As I think anyone on this forum will tell you - numbers aside it's a damn ballsy setup in this car. :up:

                            1987 325i Cabrio - SOLD
                            2014 Chevy Volt
                            2007 FJ Cruiser

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                              #29
                              While on crank pulleys, can there be any negative vibrational effects from changing to the M20 (or lighter) flywheels? It is, in essence, just another balancer, no?
                              I've heard some say there is some thought put into matching crank pulley/flywheel weights for this reason. I dont know enough about vibration to understand this, can anyone answer?

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by btec116 View Post
                                While on crank pulleys, can there be any negative vibrational effects from changing to the M20 (or lighter) flywheels? It is, in essence, just another balancer, no?
                                I've heard some say there is some thought put into matching crank pulley/flywheel weights for this reason. I dont know enough about vibration to understand this, can anyone answer?
                                The flywheel, even dual mass ones, serves no harmonic damping effect. It's not a balancer, either, as our motors are zero balanced and require a flywheel that's zero balanced also.

                                Bottom line: Lightweight flywheel = :) and replacing crank pulley = :(

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