The comprehensive DOHC engine swap thread.

Collapse
This is a sticky topic.
X
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • bimerok
    Advanced Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 149

    #1216
    Keep e36 trans if you already have it! You will need 328 driveshaft and e30 csb.

    Comment

    • Den_k321
      E30 Fanatic
      • Oct 2010
      • 1248

      #1217
      Originally posted by bimerok
      Keep e36 trans if you already have it! You will need 328 driveshaft and e30 csb.
      e36 328i? and does it matter if its automatic or manual? and if i keep the e36 tranny with 328 driveshaft, do i keep my e30 lsd?

      Thanks alot!

      1988 325is S50 in-progress.
      http://www.facebook.com/E30LocalCrew
      Few pictures:
      http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=255061

      Comment

      • pandaboo911
        R3VLimited
        • May 2010
        • 2070

        #1218
        Originally posted by Den_k321
        e36 328i? and does it matter if its automatic or manual? and if i keep the e36 tranny with 328 driveshaft, do i keep my e30 lsd?

        Thanks alot!
        Yea e36 328 manual, e30 csb installed backwards. Medium case diff, just needs a 4 bolt flange, I believe e36 diffs have cv flanges.

        Comment

        • bimerok
          Advanced Member
          • Apr 2007
          • 149

          #1219
          The drive shaft has to be from manual, CSB installed normally, not backwards. You will also need the guibo and bolts from e36 too as they are bigger in diameter.

          The driveshaft will bolt on fine to your diff. No modifications needed there.

          Comment

          • MaxBell
            E30 Fanatic
            • Oct 2010
            • 1390

            #1220
            Hey guys, hoping to get answers to a couple questions regarding my M50TU swap into my 1986 325e.

            1. I'm moving my brake booster over 1/2" and I'm wondering how it bolts to the pedal in the cabin. Before the two bits on the end of the booster slid on either side of that tab on the pedal. Now do I just bolt it to the side of the tab?

            2. I have 2 G260s, one that is in OK condition with a lot of mileage on it. The other is out of my parts car, with about 50k less KMs, but I've never driven the car, so I don't know what kind of shape its in. It's out of the car and it shifts and everything seems ok, is there some sort of test I could use to see which is better?

            3. I get that I have to machine down the flywheel, but how much? Just so I can tell the shop.

            4. What starter, flywheel, clutch, alignment tool (is this needed?), pilot bearing, release bearing, throwout bearing and any other tranny to engine piece do I use? M20 or M50?

            5. I'd like to make my own tranny brace, should I just mock it up when everything is in the car? Or does someone have some measurements for what mods get made to my stock one?

            6. I've loved the sounds of my M20, but I can't find exhausts that sound good for the M50, other then this (see below) and it's $1000. Any recommendations, I don't want loud.



            This is good too.

            REMEMBER: Be safe and have fun is Rule Number 1.

            The Epic Unbuild of Clint Eastwood

            Comment

            • etxxz
              R3VLimited
              • Feb 2006
              • 2085

              #1221
              Originally posted by pandaboo911
              Yea e36 328 manual, e30 csb installed backwards. Medium case diff, just needs a 4 bolt flange, I believe e36 diffs have cv flanges.
              and it can also be from the e36 m3 96+.. 328i is 96+ i think.. OBD2 e36's. i got mine from an m-roadster iirc.
              No more e30s for me.
              88 black BMW OBDII 332is dedicated track [sold]
              88 BMW OBDII bronzit 332is [RIP 03/08]
              91 BMW 325i [sold]
              86 Corolla 'Ae86' HB 20v trd [sold]
              http://youtube.com/watch?v=pTj7Hn9v5Rs

              Comment

              • justin_l_
                E30 Enthusiast
                • Jun 2007
                • 1079

                #1222
                I'll bite, these are easy enough. Should search if you want a better desctiption, the info is out there.
                Originally posted by MaxBell
                Hey guys, hoping to get answers to a couple questions regarding my M50TU swap into my 1986 325e.

                1. I'm moving my brake booster over 1/2" and I'm wondering how it bolts to the pedal in the cabin. Before the two bits on the end of the booster slid on either side of that tab on the pedal. Now do I just bolt it to the side of the tab? YES

                2. I have 2 G260s, one that is in OK condition with a lot of mileage on it. The other is out of my parts car, with about 50k less KMs, but I've never driven the car, so I don't know what kind of shape its in. It's out of the car and it shifts and everything seems ok, is there some sort of test I could use to see which is better? USE THE KNOWN GOOD ONE, PULLING TRANS SUCKS.

                3. I get that I have to machine down the flywheel, but how much? Just so I can tell the shop. TAKE THE STEP ON THE BACK DOWN FLUSH OR MORE (THE MORE YOU TAKE THE LIGHTER YOU GET)

                4. What starter, flywheel, clutch, alignment tool (is this needed?), pilot bearing, release bearing, throwout bearing and any other tranny to engine piece do I use? M20 or M50? ASSUMING YOUR USING THE G260 AND M20 FLYWHEEL AS STATED ABOVE, USE ALL M20 PARTS.

                5. I'd like to make my own tranny brace, should I just mock it up when everything is in the car? Or does someone have some measurements for what mods get made to my stock one? THEY ARE CHEAP TO BUY BUT IF YOU HANDY ENOUGH JUST MOCK IT UP IN THE CAR, THEN WELD IT UP.

                6. I've loved the sounds of my M20, but I can't find exhausts that sound good for the M50, other then this (see below) and it's $1000. Any recommendations, I don't want loud.



                This is good too.


                THERE IS A WHOLE THREAD OF EXHAUST SOUNDS, LOOK THERE.

                Comment

                • MaxBell
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 1390

                  #1223
                  Great, thanks duder.

                  Question 1: my M50 was auto. Is there any special wiring that must be done to put it into my manual car? Which plug is the auto, and which is the X26, since they are side by side in the harness?

                  Question 2: A power steering bolt was broken off in the E36 M50TU oil filter housing bracket, but luckily I have one from a NV E34 M50. They're the same part # on RealOEM, but I wanted to double check.

                  M50TU on the left, M50 NV on the right.

                  Last edited by MaxBell; 12-12-2011, 08:01 AM.
                  REMEMBER: Be safe and have fun is Rule Number 1.

                  The Epic Unbuild of Clint Eastwood

                  Comment

                  • yanal
                    Wrencher
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 248

                    #1224
                    searching too much probably isn't a good idea, because half say i should use 5mm spacer with the e28 535i mounts and the other half say i shouldn't !


                    if any of you have S50 with S52 headers, did you need spacers on the exhaust side to clear the down pipe ?
                    Sticky:True e36 one touch windows DIY

                    1990 M3
                    1992 Mtech (S50 + 5 Lug)

                    Comment

                    • BimmerTim
                      Mod Crazy
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 613

                      #1225
                      no

                      1988 Bronzitbeige Metallic 325e 2-door S50 turbo (OO=( )=OO)
                      2008 VW Rabbit
                      1991 Audi 200 20vtq Wagon

                      Comment

                      • yanal
                        Wrencher
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 248

                        #1226
                        So it looks like I'm using the steel s50 headers rather than the s52 ones, Do I need any 5mm spacers on the passenger side ?
                        Sticky:True e36 one touch windows DIY

                        1990 M3
                        1992 Mtech (S50 + 5 Lug)

                        Comment

                        • NERDE30
                          Advanced Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 133

                          #1227
                          SO let me get this right . If I am doing an S50 swap , using the Zf tranny. There is absolutely no way I can use the STOCK 95 M3 DRIVESHAFT ? If I am wrong can someone please help me make this setup work !

                          Comment

                          • yanal
                            Wrencher
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 248

                            #1228
                            You can, but you also have to swap the 95 M3 differential guts with it, the input shaft has 6 bolts, while the e30 or the newer e36 m3 are 4 bolts
                            Sticky:True e36 one touch windows DIY

                            1990 M3
                            1992 Mtech (S50 + 5 Lug)

                            Comment

                            • Jonny Cash
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1763

                              #1229
                              zf trans users, what's the m5 clutch combo youre using to use an oem single mass flywheel. (240mm?)

                              And only those who have persoanlly installed an m20 cluth combo onto a zf- What modification was needed?
                              -Jay

                              2014 NASA FL se30 champ #81
                              2001 se46 3 year plan in progress


                              Comment

                              • Jand3rson
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 37587

                                #1230
                                A nice little tip I just came up with this evening.

                                If you're removing the wiring harness from an engine you're about to put in, or removing it from your existing swap to do some work (like I am right now), get a container of white or brightly colored zip ties, some good wide ones.

                                Zip one around the boot of each connector, and write what each connector goes to on the excess strap sticking the buckle, then cut them to length. No more guessing where they go! Do the same for your fuel lines, firewall coolant lines, brake lines, etc.

                                Comment

                                Working...