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  • Jean
    Moderator
    • Aug 2006
    • 18228

    #1

    E36 flywheels

    Were there any stock single mass flywheels or are they all dual mass ?

    Quote on the subject of dual mass / single mass flywheels from bfc -

    "dual mass flywheels cannot be lightened or turned. they just get replaced. ...only thing you would have to do when going from dual to single is change the flywheels bolts to the shorter style."
    Last edited by Jean; 10-16-2008, 07:06 AM.
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  • e30serg
    E30 Addict
    • Dec 2006
    • 562

    #2
    You should be able to just get a single-mass flywheel and a matching clutch. Shorter bolts would be needed, as dual-mass flywheels are pretty thick.

    If you take a look at your dual-mass, you'll notice the springs that compress as one side moves with the engine and the other engages and then moves the clutch. The springs "dampen" the torsional movement, making for smoother shifts, but also making the flywheel much heavier.

    On a single-mass flywheel/clutch assembly, these springs are moved to the clutch disk, maintaining the weight of the flywheel low.

    Check out this little video I just found:

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    • Jason89i
      E30 Modder
      • Sep 2004
      • 875

      #3
      i have never seen a single mass e36 flywheel. however, there are two types of dual mass e36 flywheels. one is standard (us e36's), one is lightened on the outside edges (euro evo.) cheers, jason

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      • e30serg
        E30 Addict
        • Dec 2006
        • 562

        #4
        Yeah, I don't know about stock single-mass flywheels. Maybe they're talking about non-stock lightened flywheels?

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        • DaN
          E30 Fanatic
          • Dec 2003
          • 1265

          #5
          I have this 16lb single mass flywheel, purchased on ebay. It fits perfect, and its about 9lbs lighter than the dual mass. Its a good comprimise between stock, and alum race flywheels.


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          • e30this
            No R3VLimiter
            • Dec 2007
            • 3580

            #6
            What trans and clutch are you using with that clutch?

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            • DaN
              E30 Fanatic
              • Dec 2003
              • 1265

              #7
              Originally posted by e30this
              What trans and clutch are you using with that clutch?
              zf e36 m3 trans, w/s50, uuc performance organic clutch with sprung hub
              Last edited by DaN; 10-16-2008, 04:40 PM.

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              • e30this
                No R3VLimiter
                • Dec 2007
                • 3580

                #8
                So I take it you cant use the 250 trans and a sachs clutch.

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                • Jean
                  Moderator
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 18228

                  #9
                  Originally posted by DaN
                  I have this 16lb single mass flywheel, purchased on ebay. It fits perfect, and its about 9lbs lighter than the dual mass. Its a good comprimise between stock, and alum race flywheels.


                  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-RA...mZ400002009049
                  I've seen these and glad you mentioned it. Any problems with the install? Have you done any research on them?

                  Thanks
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                  • e30s52
                    R3V Elite
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 5235

                    #10
                    just orderd one. i will let you know how it turns out if you want

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                    • 318isbmw
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 2841

                      #11
                      Originally posted by e30this
                      So I take it you cant use the 250 trans and a sachs clutch.
                      250's aren't as strong as the zf's...

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                      • MR 325
                        Moderator
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 37824

                        #12
                        There is also a stock single mass conversion kit with clutch available. I know it's available from at least two of our suppliers at work. Definitely not cheap though.
                        BimmerHeads
                        Classic BMW Specialists
                        Santa Clarita, CA

                        www.BimmerHeads.com

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                        • rThor432
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 3907

                          #13
                          ^^Probably around a grand for the whole kit? Our suppliers have a similar kit for the M42 with a 19lb. steel flywheel and Sachs components that costs $750.

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                          • DaN
                            E30 Fanatic
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 1265

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jean
                            I've seen these and glad you mentioned it. Any problems with the install? Have you done any research on them?

                            Thanks
                            No problems with the install, fits with no issue of course only with the intended application. S50/zf.
                            You will get some trans rattle. My zf uses atf. I just swapped to redline MT90 and the noise is gone.

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                            • MR 325
                              Moderator
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 37824

                              #15
                              Originally posted by rThor432
                              ^^Probably around a grand for the whole kit? Our suppliers have a similar kit for the M42 with a 19lb. steel flywheel and Sachs components that costs $750.
                              About $750-$800 I think. That includes single mass flywheel, disc, pressure plate and TOB.
                              BimmerHeads
                              Classic BMW Specialists
                              Santa Clarita, CA

                              www.BimmerHeads.com

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