S54 e30 electronics ?

[e30ixBoost]

now that i have gotten an S54B32 retrofitted into a 1991 e30ix dimly speaking less many additional requirements, its been decided so far to be keeping/using the original 5MT and transfer case, so ... its electronics time

basically the engine over the next coming months is going to be torn apart ... rebuilt .. naturally forged parts, it is to support upwards of 900hp, and am learning towards a Garrett GT5533R turbo, maybe even get in a race season of an NA class .. depending

that wrote .. lets discuss ELECTRONICS !!!

now inorder to safe on money, and since i have 2 engineering degrees(to keep forum trolls at bay telling me what i can and can not accomplish), one of these being electronics, i figured i would ask about what should be next and therefor .. the options

to make things even simpler, i would like to point out i have read about plug in 'kits', stand alone ECU packages that range from 3K to 750, depending on person(s) and have yet to find a valid company providing said service

so ... the requirements/goal .. would like to originally keep the vanos(have not decided on cams that is why) .. TBW ... and alas no decision on the dash

links would be nice, and or discussions on schematics or procedures on the harness conversions, and anything plausible please ..

- TROLLS - NO - JUST DONT - STOP - GO AWAY -

if you have nothing to say pertaining to said started discussion which may be ill mannered :hitler: or just plain rubbish, please stop. Last i asked questions some fool called me mr.6 post count (or something stupid like that) no need for that fascism

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what are my options on these pre-made 'kits ' - - LINKS ?
various schematics ?
software for stand alone ECU?

(i also have INPA Ediabas DIS SSS GT1 software - plus the cable for my daily BMW - would love to be able to use this on the engine separate of standalone ECU Flash from pre-made kit etc etc )

[future rs]

you can put an s54 in and keep the IX transfer case etc.....?

[nando]

here, I'll help

WWW.GOOGLE.COM

it's pretty obvious you just want to be spoon fed everything. two engineering degrees, one in electronics? You should have the whole binary disassembled by now.

maybe start with a binary dump. since you're so smart, and have two "engineering" degrees, you should be able to do that no problem. you probably already have the neccesary hardware and software.

I could tell you everything I know about MSS54 and the E46 M3 cluster i've already got converted to run inside an E30, standalone, but I'm not going to because your attitude sucks.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Hey, welcome back Mr. 28Posts. I thought you were done with us. No excuses this time, please.

[dashboardmonkey]

Yay! You're back. Let me get the popcorn...

[e30ixBoost]

here, I'll help
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maybe start with a binary dump. since you're so smart, and have two "engineering" degrees, you should be able to do that no problem. you probably already have the neccesary hardware and software.

I could tell you everything I know about MSS54 and the E46 M3 cluster i've already got converted to run inside an E30, standalone, but I'm not going to because your attitude sucks.

TROLL

obviously since the way u went about my post u dont know shit and are just probably regurgitating trash that you just googled for the questions infront you , like last time ... its ok dont need ye.. with u or without u .. its going to get done either way same as before

NOT LIKE I NEED YOUR BULLSHIT

[e30ixBoost]

Hey, welcome back Mr. 28Posts. I thought you were done with us. No excuses this time, please.

TROLL

worst then the last one

[nando]

Oh, the irony.

You were calling me a "wizard" when I unloaded a small portion of my swap information on you.

I thought you were done with this site? Didnt you say the electronics were taken care of before?

I dont mind helping but again, you cant even do basic research, why should I tell you anything? Did you even bother to read any of the posts in this forum before posting more nonsense?

So why havent you done a bin dump yet, mr. double degree EE?

[nando]

Here are some things for you to search for:

Bmw WDS
Hex editor
crc16
obd2 flash cable
rom dump
29F200 / 29F400
BDM / JTAG

That should be enough to get you started in the right direction.

Good luck!

[e30ixBoost]

here are some thing for you to search for:

Bmw wds
hex editor
crc16
obd2 flash cable
rom dump

good luck!

troll

[nando]

Really, that is your response? Those are real terms that, honest to god, would be helpful to you.

Here are some things you likely want to disable/change:

EWS
SAP
DSC/ASC
Rear 02s
Can messaging
VSS input

[e30ixBoost]

Really, that is your response? Those are real terms that, honest to god, would be helpful to you.

Here are some things you likely want to disable/change:

EWS
SAP
DSC/ASC
Rear 02s
Can messaging
VSS input

im in the slow process of figuring out if i could keep the stock e46m ecu / integrate ABS inorder to have DSC - my other bmw one is able to hold the dsc button for 10 seconds and its in half on half off mode where the ABS still kickin on separate wheels but the throttle is not down tuned, this would be perfect for the track

still alot more to know / learn

honestly i would not waste the time to reverse engineer anything, even tough assembly comes to me naturally as i am an old timer in the industry.. im leaning towards IF i do end up going with a stand alone unit to wire up the harness my self and then find a DME flash somewhere which i am able to mod for my needs

i have not researched into retrofitting the E46M cluster into the E30 housing, however have seen the entire unit placed into the dash.. which is a possible start

i really do want to do a season of NA class racing while i prepare for a turbo configuration as i have never been in that class before, however depending on the electronics and which route is taken, it may just be the required custom fabrications be done ignoring that idea all together



so .. now ... any information which is USEFUL not just 'GOOGLE THIS BULLSHIT .. IM GOD of almighty information but i wont help you '

just dont bother responding, it wont keep a thread going thats any usefull, and only show how big of a douche bag thread derailing asshole one is able to be ..

not to classify you less of a TROLL, but other then that if you want to keep being a jackass and not help me move along this project so be it , dont waste ur time responding

per previous notes i got a good 4 months now to toy around, mechanics wise the franken-pan-S54-IX has been retrofitted, it wont take too long to have the driveshaft extended and shimmed, no decisions on the front/read diff yet.

[Todd Black 88]

im in the slow process of figuring out if i could keep the stock e46m ecu / integrate abs inorder to have dsc - my other bmw one is able to hold the dsc button for 10 seconds and its in half on half off mode where the abs still kickin on separate wheels but the throttle is not down tuned, this would be perfect for the track

still alot more to know / learn

honestly i would not waste the time to reverse engineer anything, even tough assembly comes to me naturally as i am an old timer in the industry.. Im leaning towards if i do end up going with a stand alone unit to wire up the harness my self and then find a dme flash somewhere which i am able to mod for my needs

i have not researched into retrofitting the e46m cluster into the e30 housing, however have seen the entire unit placed into the dash.. Which is a possible start

i really do want to do a season of na class racing while i prepare for a turbo configuration as i have never been in that class before, however depending on the electronics and which route is taken, it may just be the required custom fabrications be done ignoring that idea all together



so .. Now ... Any information which is useful not just 'google this Bullshit .. Im god of almighty information but i wont help you '

just dont bother responding, it wont keep a thread going thats any usefull, and only show how big of a douche bag thread derailing asshole one is able to be ..

Not to classify you less of a troll, but other then that if you want to keep being a jackass and not help me move along this project so be it , dont waste ur time responding

per previous notes i got a good 4 months now to toy around, mechanics wise the franken-pan-s54-ix has been retrofitted, it wont take too long to have the driveshaft extended and shimmed, no decisions on the front/read diff yet.

tool

[nando]

well, the M3 DSC is for a RWD car, and you want to put it in the ix, which is AWD. The M3 also has the variable diff lock which interfaces with DSC and the DME, the ix has neither of those. And the point of the ix AWD is traction control. I'm not sure why you'd need both.

I'm not spoon feeding you anything. You don't even understand how the DSC system works, yet you're going to make it work in a AWD car when it was built for a RWD car? You have obviously not even *attempted* to learn how it works yet. Hell you can't even use a search engine or read a few threads in this forum.

fitting the M3 cluster into the dash, is not the difficult part at all. it's physically smaller than the E30 cluster, it actually fits *inside* the E30 cluster housing.

so you went the frankenpan route. I'm sorry. :(

I'd really like to know what racing class allows a 25 year old 325ix with a 900hp turbo S54 swap. And even if such a racing class like that exists, why on earth would you start with an ix for 900awhp?

it's so ironic that you're the one calling me a troll....

[e30ixBoost]

well, the M3 DSC is for a RWD car, and you want to put it in the ix, which is AWD. The M3 also has the variable diff lock which interfaces with DSC and the DME, the ix has neither of those. And the point of the ix AWD is traction control. I'm not sure why you'd need both.

the E30ix AWD is simplistic in form by nature from that i mean the transfer case or front differential have no required electronic components, so as DSC goes, and correct me if im wrong, would it not function the same as RWD if sensors and required peripherals were placed on the front, this is obviously why i was asking about this, because i do not know about it ... all in due time of course everything will be clear.

I'm not spoon feeding you anything. You don't even understand how the DSC system works, yet you're going to make it work in a AWD car when it was built for a RWD car? You have obviously not even *attempted* to learn how it works yet. Hell you can't even use a search engine or read a few threads in this forum.

PLEASE ... enlighten me .. with your wrath of knowledge pertaining to my questions ...;) why take the longer path, when there is ample opportunity to cut out useless information and to be pointed in a better direction... work smarter NOT HARDER

fitting the M3 cluster into the dash, is not the difficult part at all. it's physically smaller than the E30 cluster, it actually fits *inside* the E30 cluster housing.

interesting, so i can retrofit the E46M cluster into the E30 cluster housing .. or simply dash board (which i know about already)

i have previously read about what was required to keep the stock ecu, and how to sideline the limbo mode ... however i did not bookmark it/document its procedure WHICH I SHOULD HAVE :blowup:, i will however do this when it comes up, nore do i want to be posting about half remembered information ...i would like to know your thoughts on keeping the stock ecu .. if not ill figure it out :drink:

so you went the frankenpan route. I'm sorry. :(

WHY MY FRIEND !!! WHY !!!!!! :D personally i regret not going with a skyline/evo/wrx stupid me with e30ix money thrown away for no reason, we shall let the track decide its fate, but i do not regret going with the half pan, there is still room for improvement, more so the M50 oil pump, im thinking dry sump, and regrettably redoing the design of the entire pan, especially if we use a 3.5-3.7 stroker crank (25% and thats a low low figure, i cant justify the money, but that doesnt matter anyways)

after all was said and done, and as parts were surprisingly scares for the 525ix, it was the natural path to take, i was surprised, even in europe finding 525ix parts is not a freely given commodity. Still have to figure out the airbox issue(s), pertaining to the 5MT there was a concept thrown around about cutting/welding transmission housing(s) onto/or from 6MT but its not like on the track there is a need to go 150+ anyway simplicity was favorable

I'd really like to know what racing class allows a 25 year old 325ix with a 900hp turbo S54 swap. And even if such a racing class like that exists, why on earth would you start with an ix for 900awhp?

it's so ironic that you're the one calling me a troll....

25 :grin: im flattered, i was much older then that when i sold my 3rd software license, per the rest, once the season starts, then its no problem to proceed in fulfilling your curiosity needs, but for now, and to save face on the sponsors, and god knows what evil may lurk in the jealousy or inferiority complex floating around here . thus per giving the opponent cannon fodder, if we did start on a different manner, i would not feel the anxiety towards secrecy but now, god willing what would happen.

it's so ironic that you're the one calling me a troll....

i have many MANY questions / concepts / theories all i did and or do is come and ask, take on the haters and dreams, so please. we started off nice, but then you were drawn into the trollism by others.