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  • alloydix
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    How much length do stock springs take up fully compressed? Seems that the springs may become the limiting factor. I guess you could lower the spring perch and run long springs on a coilover setup.
    Last edited by alloydix; 02-22-2018, 10:49 AM.

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  • nando
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    They should - it's really based on where in the strut tube you place them relative to your final compression height at rest.

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  • alloydix
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    I see what you are saying now. There is about 1in of strut tube above stock spring perch that could be removed. So you would use a shortened koni insert with a 1in spacer or so below it and then stock or long coilovers? Do the inserts actually have 3.5in of travel though?

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  • nando
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    Because the springs are the same length (and you dont move the perch), but the strut is shorter - so it compresses further without bottoming out.

    You can only go lower if you move the spring perches lower. They are related, but separate.

    A stock ix has like 2"-2.5" of travel before bottoming out - if you shorten the strut by 1" (without moving the spring perch) your total compression would be 3"-3.5".

    Typically you shorten the struts with a coilover setup so you dont lose compression travel - for example, H&R sports on an ix have very little travel (~1.5"), which results in a poor ride quality. My ix is like 2.5" lower than stock, but the struts are also shorter, so the compression travel is similar to stock. Otherwise, my compression travel would literally be 0"...
    Last edited by nando; 02-21-2018, 10:35 PM.

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  • alloydix
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    Originally posted by nando View Post
    If droop and ride height isn't an issue, you could go with the Koni Race inserts with a spacer and remove 1" from the strut tube. There might be enough length in the strut tubes to do this while staying with stock springs - or you could go with coilovers.
    How does this give you more travel? Seems that it would just allow you to lower the car 1in with the same amount of travel as stock?

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  • bmw444
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    Rally suspension

    MCA Suspension is one of the highest quality suspension brands within its price bracket with local support and one of the best warranties on the market.

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  • bmw444
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    Rally suspension

    Contact Murray Coote at MCA suspension. They make bespoke suspension for rally, rally cross jn Australia. They did make one off remote canister struts for you. Price will depend on level of adjustment. But circa 3 to 4k Aud.

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  • Kershaw
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    Yeah, raising the car 8" won't work well. Lol. 2" would be pretty good, not 8.

    I cut 2/3s of the bump stops off on my street ix and that helped me stop bottoming out as well. I'm not sure why that wasn't my first go to. I also think I'll end up running different front springs.



    Something like these
    Last edited by Kershaw; 02-01-2018, 06:25 AM.

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  • The Dark Side of Will
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    Originally posted by Kershaw View Post
    I friend asked me this question the other day, "why not section the struts, lengthen them, and run standard RWD shocks?"

    I did not have any answer, aside from the work, it sounds like a decent idea.
    The RWD shocks come almost all the way down to the ball joint, while the AWD struts have to stop above the CV joint.

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  • nando
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    If droop and ride height isn't an issue, you could go with the Koni Race inserts with a spacer and remove 1" from the strut tube. There might be enough length in the strut tubes to do this while staying with stock springs - or you could go with coilovers.

    Another option is to run Bilstein HDs and cut the bump stops in half. I think that could gain you an inch as well.

    You know, there have been rally ix's in the past - some of them relatively famous (I used to see an Alcan 5000 team here quite a bit that campaigned an ix and did very well). Maybe look into what they've used.

    Basically you can increase travel by either raising the car or shortening the struts. yeah, the RWD inserts have more travel overall, but that won't do you any good unless you raise the car up like 8", which is probably not going to work too well. ;)

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  • AndrewBird
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    Your issue is the distance from the top of the strut body to the underside of the upper strut mount. As the body of the shock gets longer, this distance decreases and gives you less travel before bottoming out. Longer struts might have more travel, but without raising the ride height, you won't gain travel as the shaft will just be further in the strut.

    If you are willing to raise the car up, then longer struts would work.

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  • Kershaw
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    But then isnt it also possible to use the ground control kit to drop the spring perch way down and run much longer springs?

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  • nando
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    They're like 6" longer - unless you're going to put a lift kit on your ix, that's not going to work.

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  • Kershaw
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    I friend asked me this question the other day, "why not section the struts, lengthen them, and run standard RWD shocks?"

    I did not have any answer, aside from the work, it sounds like a decent idea.

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  • iXguido
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    Originally posted by Kershaw View Post
    I must be missing something. How does a shorter shock give me more travel? And how would a shorter shock fit into the strut?
    Sorry I was thinking you were lowered and trying to get more travel.

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