Flat towing an ix

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  • Kershaw
    R3V OG
    • Feb 2010
    • 11822

    #1

    Flat towing an ix

    Packing and unpacking the ix for rallycross can get tedious. Throwing everything in the Explorer would be much easier.

    Any reason why flat towing would be bad? It should be just like coasting down a hill in neutral, right?
    AWD > RWD
  • audiquattrot
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    • May 2008
    • 3836

    #2
    I've done it before and saw no ill effects from it. 1-2 mile tow.
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    • Kershaw
      R3V OG
      • Feb 2010
      • 11822

      #3
      This would be more like 100-200 miles, haha.
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      • 4x4_e30
        Advanced Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 164

        #4
        Car dolly, remove front driveshaft. And I'm a retard.
        Last edited by 4x4_e30; 07-09-2018, 06:41 PM.

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        • nando
          Moderator
          • Nov 2003
          • 34827

          #5
          As long as all 4 wheels are on the ground it should be fine
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          • The Dark Side of Will
            R3VLimited
            • Jun 2010
            • 2796

            #6
            When you flat tow a car, leave the steering unlocked.

            The iX's limited caster may not self center the steering well coming out of turns.

            ETA: turning the output shaft in the transmission with no gears turning doesn't lubricate anything.
            Let the engine idle in neutral while you're towing it :-P

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            • Kershaw
              R3V OG
              • Feb 2010
              • 11822

              #7
              why would the engine be idling? Neutral is a given, but lol the car will be turned off.
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              • jeenyus
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                • Aug 2011
                • 2064

                #8
                I towed mine flat for about 10 miles through the city when I moved. It's totally possible as long as all four are ok the ground.

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                • The Dark Side of Will
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                  • Jun 2010
                  • 2796

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Kershaw
                  why would the engine be idling? Neutral is a given, but lol the car will be turned off.
                  Originally posted by The Dark Side of Will
                  ETA: turning the output shaft in the transmission with no gears turning doesn't lubricate anything.

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                  • nando
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 34827

                    #10
                    If no gears are tuning, what needs lubricated? How is it any different from coasting in neutral?
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                    • nrubenstein
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                      • Feb 2009
                      • 3148

                      #11
                      Originally posted by nando
                      If no gears are tuning, what needs lubricated? How is it any different from coasting in neutral?
                      The transmission is typically lubricated by turning the *input* shaft. Towing with the engine off means that you are spinning parts of the trans dry. IIRC, BMW says max 50 miles.

                      Coasting down a hill in neutral for 200 miles would be bad, too.
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                      • Kershaw
                        R3V OG
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 11822

                        #12
                        Huh, that's really interesting. Because of that comment I did some googling, some people suggest raising the idle to 1500rpm as well. Wouldn't be that hard with a zip tie.
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                        • 2002tiiguy
                          E30 Addict
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 467

                          #13
                          im pretty sure the only issue is with the auto cars... and bmw says even for those just add a quart of atf to the transmission

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                          • nando
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 34827

                            #14
                            Originally posted by nrubenstein
                            The transmission is typically lubricated by turning the *input* shaft. Towing with the engine off means that you are spinning parts of the trans dry. IIRC, BMW says max 50 miles.

                            Coasting down a hill in neutral for 200 miles would be bad, too.
                            Again.. If nothing is moving, why does it need lubricated? It's not in gear. It makes no difference if the engine is on or off.
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                            • The Dark Side of Will
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                              • Jun 2010
                              • 2796

                              #15
                              Originally posted by nando
                              Again.. If nothing is moving, why does it need lubricated? It's not in gear. It makes no difference if the engine is on or off.
                              The output shaft is turning in a flat tow situation.

                              That means that all the needle bearings where the 1st, 2nd, 3rd & 5th gears ride on the output shaft are turning, but there aren't any gears turning to get the oil moving, so there's basically no lubrication for those needles. Oh yeah, and the pilot bearing/bushing where the output shaft centers in the back of the input shaft.

                              Also, coasting down a hill with the engine running turns all the gears and gets oil moving.

                              Tie the clutch pedal down and put the trans in 5th could work.

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