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  • bastianshaw
    R3VLimited
    • Jan 2007
    • 2210

    #1

    How effective are the "is" aerodynamics

    I believe I read that the is was 2mph faster top speed based on the spoiler.
    Is this true, or does that figure include skirts and, more notably the lip spoiler?

    Would like to hear from maybe spec e30 or swapped guys that have installed after they bought their cars, or driven both, can you feel it at higher speeds?
  • agent
    Vice Grand Pubaa
    • Mar 2010
    • 7960

    #2
    I know I can't tell the difference between 120 and 122.
    Originally posted by kronus
    would be in depending on tip slant and tube size

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    • DÌEGØ
      Mod Crazy
      • Feb 2010
      • 690

      #3
      Its a small difference. barely worth it
      Driving:1990 325iS, 2007 335i :devil:
      past BMWs: 1987 325iS turbo, 1989 325i, 1995 525i, 2000 328CI, 2001 540i, 2008 135i

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      • bastianshaw
        R3VLimited
        • Jan 2007
        • 2210

        #4
        Anyone know the actual drag coefficient for a late model 325i OR is?

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        • jlevie
          R3V OG
          • Nov 2006
          • 13530

          #5
          My opinion, based on experience with race cars, is that the front spoiler makes no difference.
          The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
          Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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          • bastianshaw
            R3VLimited
            • Jan 2007
            • 2210

            #6
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            looks like the 87is wins

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            • bastianshaw
              R3VLimited
              • Jan 2007
              • 2210

              #7
              Originally posted by jlevie
              My opinion, based on experience with race cars, is that the front spoiler makes no difference.
              always liked that valance

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              • nando
                Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 34827

                #8
                the trunk spoiler is supposed to reduce drag by about 2%. don't know about the front spoiler. it might do something but the difference is probably small. They did actually wind tunnel test them.

                for drag I've seen anywhere between .33 and .35, but remember the E30 is a small car with a smaller frontal area (area X coefficient of drag = total drag). Modern cars have slightly lower drag coefficients but they're also fucking HUGE.
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                • TobyB
                  R3V Elite
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 5163

                  #9
                  Anyone know the actual drag coefficient for a late model 325i OR is?
                  => brick

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                  • nmlss2006
                    E30 Modder
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 910

                    #10
                    Really? 0.33 to 0.35? That seems exceptionally low given the age of the project... and it's true, the important part in figuring out the aerodynamic drag in an E30 is that the S part of SCx is small, compared to an E46.

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                    • Wild Ride
                      Mod Crazy
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 739

                      #11
                      I talked to a couple pro3 guys at PIR. (portland international raceway). The class only allows for certain OEM parts and mods to be used. Several of them claimed 5mph faster at the end of the front straight using front and rear IS spoiler and lip vs no trunk spoiler and i lip. I have no evidence to substantiate this however.

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                      • djmossm42
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 687

                        #12
                        I would assume the front spoiler is to keep less air from getting under the car which could reduce drag at high speed as opposed to an expensive full under car diffuser not sure if that's the right term but you know when the bottom of the car is one smooth surface and air can be directed out the back
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                        • Driftin
                          Advanced Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 129

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Wild Ride
                          I talked to a couple pro3 guys at PIR. (portland international raceway). The class only allows for certain OEM parts and mods to be used. Several of them claimed 5mph faster at the end of the front straight using front and rear IS spoiler and lip vs no trunk spoiler and i lip. I have no evidence to substantiate this however.
                          If anything, the spoilers are reducing lift, thereby allowing a higher exit speed out of the corner and a higher top speed on the straight. Easiest way to reduce drag and increase top speed is to reduce the frontal area of the car. Do this by lowering it. (yes I am including the air below the front spoiler as frontal area since air packs up there at high speeds)
                          Last edited by Driftin; 01-23-2013, 09:10 AM.

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                          • Bimmerguy91
                            E30 Modder
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 982

                            #14
                            Originally posted by nmlss2006
                            Really? 0.33 to 0.35? That seems exceptionally low given the age of the project... and it's true, the important part in figuring out the aerodynamic drag in an E30 is that the S part of SCx is small, compared to an E46.
                            I agree I find that extremely low given the design and age of the car.. I mean its like a brick.

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                            • nando
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 34827

                              #15
                              Volvos are bricks. E30s are basically bubble cars in comparison. :p
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