HID Question

[mbc325]

I just got my hands on a free pair of HIDs and I'm not sure how to go about figuring out if they'll work with my car. Googling them they turn out to be Philips TM 212-L300 ballasts with D2R 6k Bulbs. I have US Ellipsoids in my '89is. Is there any way to get these things working?

[bmwguy325is]

Well congrats you got your hands on legit HID bulbs.
The only way to make them work is to retro fit HID projectors.
The Illegal HIDs that most people run have been hacked up by a sweat shop in china so they fit a socket like an H1 or 9006 and so on.

[AndrewBird]

Without proper projector lenses, you will have lighting scattering all over, blinding other drivers. Don't do it.

[84driver]

There's always HIR 9011/9012 bulbs for US ellips. HID will be a hack up.

[dkbmxer002]

Without proper projector lenses, you will have lighting scattering all over, blinding other drivers. Don't do it.

the US ellipsoid projectors don't blind anyone have a nice clean line......

[bmwguy325is]

the US ellipsoid projectors don't blind anyone have a nice clean line......

Its all about wave lenght. OK halogen bulb the filament goes from side to side. HID the filament goes from front to back. Its just the same as putting on someone eles's glasses. Its also Illegal. Thus why all the kits say for off road use only. Unless you swap to DS lenses

[dkbmxer002]

modifying your exhaust or changing the ride height are also illegal but everyone does it. with the projector lenses they don't blind people in any bit so i'm cool with it. been pulled over many times with them on both my cars and never even had em mentioned.

[Dirtboy]

...OK halogen bulb the filament goes from side to side. HID the filament goes from front to back...

H1 halogen bulb filaments go front to back.

[einstein57]

Its all about wave lenght. OK halogen bulb the filament goes from side to side. HID the filament goes from front to back.

Please explain how changing the axis of the current changes the wave length.

[e30iwite]

uhh, HIDs have filaments??

edit: oh yeah, mbc325, those hids should be easy to put in. Your ellipsoids are projectors, so you're good to go. look for a write up. if you can't find it, pm me and i'll try to help you. I recently installed hids too.

[Manzaa]

the US ellipsoid projectors don't blind anyone have a nice clean line......

Actually they suck! And there 20yr old outdated eillpsoids! The correct way to go about is to modify (retrofit) your eillpsoids with a set of projectors that accept D2S bulbs. It dosnt have to be a bi-xenon, just something that is made for the bulbs !! However, you will run into other problem if your electric system isn't up to par, since those ballast require more current! You might need to addtional hardness. Congrats and good luck

Manzaa

[bmwman91]

OK, here's the deal.

I know from experience that putting re-based H1 HID bulbs into Euro Ellipsoid housings works JUST FINE. Nobody gets blinded and illumination is better than halogen.



Left is an Apexcone 4500K HID bulb, and right is a Sylvania Simverstar halogen. Ignore the color because it is way off in the photo. Cameras' white balance settings won't work for both at the same time since the two sources have very very different CRI spectrums. In-person, the 4500K HID bulb is WHITE and the halogen looks pretty yellow in comparison. Both were in Euro Ellipsoid housings.

Apexcone/DDM HID bulbs are shit and you should stay away. After one year, the light is super blue & ricey. I ordered some higher quality H1-based HID bulbs from The Retrofit Source and they shoudl be here soon (and give me OEM color, not ricer bullshit). DDM ballasts are fine, as long as you know how to properly install them.

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OP, there is no simple way to use D2R bulbs in any stock E30 light. You will need to either find re-based HID bulbs, or hack the hell out of your headlight housings and install the projector assembly from a newer car. Those are the options. I would suggest spending $40 on some 35W 9006-based (or whatever the US ellipsoids use) from The Retrofit Source.

*I am in no way affiliated with TRS, just a customer.

I have some FX-R projector assemblies coming in the mail, and some extra Euro Ellipsoid headlights, so I will be converting to a proper setup soon. Still, using stock housings with quality re-based HID bulbs will work pretty well.

Also, don't be a damn dirty ricer and run 6000K bulbs. 5000K is acceptable, maybe. 4300K-4500K is where you want to be. Running bulbs above 6000K is flat-out nonsense and you will be sacked if you do, and your E30 will be taken away and you will be forced to drive a 1993 Integra with heat-lowered springs and yellow seat covers.

[e30trooper]

Actually they suck! And there 20yr old outdated eillpsoids! The correct way to go about is to modify (retrofit) your eillpsoids with a set of projectors that accept D2S bulbs. It dosnt have to be a bi-xenon, just something that is made for the bulbs !! However, you will run into other problem if your electric system isn't up to par, since those ballast require more current! You might need to addtional hardness. Congrats and good luck

Manzaa

this , time to jump on the boat and go bi-xenon, sign up for hidplanet and start to read! No since in putting HID in any stock ellipsoid, they were never made to use HID bulbs , the light output would never been comparable to a nice retro fit.

[reelizmpro]

All I can say is I run hids in 3 cars with Euro projectors and the output is drastically better. Aimed properly they don't blind anyone. Great bang for your buck mod that gives u 80% of what a true hid setup does at less cost and hassle of retrofit.ask yourself...do u really need that extra 20%? If u live in a city the answer is probably no. So try it out and see if u r happy with it but please aim the lights properly.

[IRON-E]

Actually they suck! And there 20yr old outdated eillpsoids! The correct way to go about is to modify (retrofit) your eillpsoids with a set of projectors that accept D2S bulbs. It dosnt have to be a bi-xenon, just something that is made for the bulbs !! However, you will run into other problem if your electric system isn't up to par, since those ballast require more current! You might need to addtional hardness. Congrats and good luck

Manzaa

You finally jumped on this forum homie!......btw, Manzaa knows his shit.
He retrofited the BiXenons on my car with smilies and I love them, great upgrade if you're looking for finishing touches to a car.

All I can say is I run hids in 3 cars with Euro projectors and the output is drastically better. Aimed properly they don't blind anyone. Great bang for your buck mod that gives u 80% of what a true hid setup does at less cost and hassle of retrofit.ask yourself...do u really need that extra 20%? If u live in a city the answer is probably no. So try it out and see if u r happy with it but please aim the lights properly.

This man speaks the truff, I was pretty happy with a regular HID kit (4800k, 35Wtts, 9006) and for the buying cost, you won't regret it.