HID's in US ellipsoids?

[peytonracer4]

youre a straight moron.

Most lowering kits say right on them lowers 1.5 in the back and 1 in the front. that changes the angle the headlights are pointing.

Its so common I can tell you have no idea what youre talking about on anything, like about 30 other teenagers who lurk around here lol.

you should adjust your headlights every so often. i do about every year on my cars.
so it really shouldn't be an issue auto level or not.
i can promise you my lowered e46 headlights are aimed correctly.

[stamar]

totally, you should adjust your headlights.

But enough people do not obviously, and that combination is hazardous.

In many states, aftermarket hid kits are illegal for a few reasons, you can look it up if you are interested.

Im looking through bmw guys advice and he went back to say, dont install hids in your ellipsoids...

I dont even want to give him enough energy to even tell him to shut his face. 1000s of people to tell him his head is straight up his butt.

I dont know where these people come from honestly but I run into them in r3v a fair amount and I learn to hit the ignore.

Usually they find some other ass and argue with eachother for 3 days about something stupid and disapear.

Ignore anything he has to say ive seen it before.


not bmwman the other one.

[GAbOS]

youre a straight moron.

Most lowering kits say right on them lowers 1.5 in the back and 1 in the front. that changes the angle the headlights are pointing.

Its so common I can tell you have no idea what youre talking about on anything, like about 30 other teenagers who lurk around here lol.

This is my first e30 project, and I am way noob. Unfortunately for you, I'm not a noob of research and knowledge.

Link me a kit. My Sport Cup kit is raked, reputable and flattens exhausts for free.

[stamar]

an hid kit that levels on an e30?

well you can buy aftermarket hid levelers for an e30 but what does that matter?

a retrofit, leveling hid projector. Definitely on sale from several sources.

So what?

People with e30s in general arent using those, they are using projectors made for halogen bulbs.

There are definitely e30 owners out there with real hids from more modern cars.

I dont really understand what youre trying to get. You can put any headlights on an e30. An e30 was made before hids were invented, so unless you have a time machine you will not find a stock e30 with any hid system at all.

[stamar]

oh btw here

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tanabe-DF210-Lowering-Springs-4-KYB-AGX-Shocks-95-99-Nissan-Maxima-/320903506859?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ab756ebab&vxp=mtr#ht_4366wt_952

1.5 in the front, 2.2 in the rear.


its so common only some teenager would waste someones time contradicting it. I am not here to look up common things for you unless you want to pay me. Its good that you want to learn, but you look up the answers you need to know before you speak
youre a straight idiot, in your own words.

If you do need to post again post with the humility that you dont know anything, that you were rude, and you were of course wrong. and likely the next 10 things you say are wrong and rude too.

Or just never post again thanks you contribute nothing.

[GAbOS]

An e30 was made before hids were invented, so unless you have a time machine you will not find an e30 with any hid system at all.

Luckily Projectors weren't. (and in the fogs! bonus!!)

[stamar]

It is lucky. We have a much cheaper upgrade to hid method than most cars from that era.

And its much easier than more modern cars too, although they are doing it right.

One level more modern we would have to bake our headlights to open them.

And the truth is, the upgrading to a true modern hid, afro engineering it, is easier in an e30 that most modern cars also that come in a sealed plastic enclosure.

Overall the more you look into it, the more its all good news to tell you the truth. e30s came with hallogen projectors that need no fabriction for aftermarket hids....( not all just the ellipsoid ones, but they fit in all e30s is what i mean)

very easy to fabricate in real hids...


Look into putting hids into an e36. You would think it would be easier right, because e36s came with hids. But the cost is astronomical even from chinese depo sources, and the task of retrofitting hids into their headlights is much more major.

[GAbOS]

You linked everyone to an eBay Nissan setup.

Again, I may be a noob to e30's.

These could* work on our cars(I have no effing idea). But the rear being lower applies to the Nissan you linked to. It may be a means of getting "Moar Low"?

If that's the case. I am about to rip out the before mentioned H&R Cup Kit Sport that was 'Designed' for the e30. $600 shipped. PM me.

here's a photo of the current setup on OE 14" (195)

[stamar]

i linked everyone to a car lowering kit.

It doesnt matter which one . Theres 50 others i stopped on the first one i found.

some car lowering kits lower the rear more than the front. So commonly that it changes where the headlights aim. Im pretty sure more do than dont.

It doesnt matter whether your e30 kit doesnt, unless all other cars use your kit?

Do all other cars use the same kit you did bro? Can you look that up for me? Are all other lowering kits the same as yours? Are you sure man, or are you a waste of everyones time still?


I mean is it me or is it you? Oh its you I promise you.
Later gater. slow down on the bongloads its all good!

[GAbOS]

i linked everyone to a car lowering kit.

It doesnt matter which one .

Yes it does.

some car lowering kits lower the rear more than the front. So commonly that it changes where the headlights aim.

Most call those trucks or some random car not worth spending focused money on.

It doesnt matter whether your e30 kit doesnt, unless all other cars use your kit?

Brain exploded.

Do all other cars use the same kit you did bro? Can you look that up for me?

Of course not. No, I will not show you how to search this forum, or Google.

I mean is it me or is it you? Oh its you I promise you. Is it me thats babbling crazy shit or is it you?
Later gater.

It's you.

[bmwman91]

What on earth is going on here?

I'll tell you guys what...there is actually a RIGHT way to put HIDs on an E30. See here:

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=231842

It's a lot of work and requires tools that most people don't have. And in reality, it still isn't the real RIGHT way to light the road with these cars.

I would bet good money that a set of BRAND NEW ellipsoid lights with untinted halogen bulbs will illuminate the road as well as or better than HIDs in 20 year old ellipsoid housings. The reflector dishes in all of these old used housings are tarnished to hell from decades of heat cycling & oxidation. That's why HIDs seem so much better than halogen in them...they are brighter which helps to make up for the crapped out reflector dishes. Really, HIDs are band-aids on fairly large wound. If people want to argue about the RIGHT way to do headlights on an E30, then they should be advocating the purchase of new ellipsoid housings with fresh reflector dishes, and the use of quality untinted halgen bulbs.

But the vast majority of folks don't actually care about proper road illumination or safety. They want cars in front of them to think that there is a new M3 behind them at night with "baller" headlight looks. That's the #1 reason most people want to stuff in HID bulbs...so that they can imagine that everyone else thinks that they are ballers with a $60 HID kit in their $1500 car. Mad tyte, yo. "Wow look at those headlights behind me, I wonder what car kind of car that is? Oh no way it is a 21 year old German rust bucket, damn I wish I had headlights like that!" Riiiight.

It is painfully easy to put HIDs into an E30, and relatively inexpensive too. The stock projector lights that were available for these cars do have cut-offs in them that will keep you from blinding other drivers like a dirty ricer. That means ELLIPSOID headlights only. Don't put HIDs into Hella or Cibie H4 housings...or you are a fucking inconsiderate ricer. At least use a 35W kit with somewhat reputable 4300K bulbs and re-aim your lights if you are going to take advantage of the fact that the E30 makes it super easy to convert to HIDs and even has a safe (for other drivers) beam pattern.

Seriously. I want to strangle anyone that talks about how they can't choose between 5000K or 6000K HIDs in their car. No, nobody else thinks you are a baller or that it looks fancy; they think you are a 16 year old with illegal and annoying headlights. There is only one option: 4300K with proper aiming, and 35W ballasts. Anything else makes you a ricer. Period.

Sorry about the rant, but it needs to be said.

[agent]

I was going to throw in my here about how lowering a car has absolutely fuck all to do with the headlights pointing upwards as a result and that the auto-leveling system is somehow being adversely affected. But I can't be sure if what I read yesterday and what's there this morning is the same since stamar has gone back and edited his posts more than twelve hours later. Hell, some of GAbOS' quotes aren't even there anymore and he was quoting him within minutes.

I think it's patently obvious yet again stamar has no idea what he is talking about. Oh, and a Humboldt County resident telling someone to ease up on the bong rips? Priceless. Set phasers to ignore. Buh-bye troll.

Good post bmwman91.

[stamar]

I just quoted the reason aftermarket hid kits are illegal

http://www.carbulbsdirect.com/blog/2011/11/aftermarket-hid-kits-why-they-are-illegal

I really could care less because they are not in my states...

if you want to read about the difference between an aftermarket hid kit, and a regular kit theres 20 pages from google. Especially type, are hid retrofits illegal in ( my state)



but I encourage anyone to look into it and read. and yes absolutely, lowering the rear of your car more than the front will change where your headlights are pointed. Type that into google when mom gives you your turn on the computer.

I dont even want to communicate with someone who doesnt understand that what purpose is there. But it doesnt even matter anyway, its trolling for an argument and I get bored with it quickly. It doesnt even matter its teenage contradiction. Wrong as two left shoes but it still doesnt matter either way.

[stamar]

I would bet good money that a set of BRAND NEW ellipsoid lights with untinted halogen bulbs will illuminate the road as well as or better than HIDs in 20 year old ellipsoid housings. The reflector dishes in all of these old used housings are tarnished to hell from decades of heat cycling & oxidation. That's why HIDs seem so much better than halogen in them...they are brighter which helps to make up for the crapped out reflector dishes. Really, HIDs are band-aids on fairly large wound. If people want to argue about the RIGHT way to do headlights on an E30, then they should be advocating the purchase of new ellipsoid housings with fresh reflector dishes, and the use of quality untinted halgen bulbs.

Im down with bmwman91 as already knowing everything i learned when i put my hids in. Very logical thinker too, probably an adult.

But heres some data on just this quote I dont buy :

First off, if there are halogen lights that are as bright as my ebay 35w hids, they actually cost either nearly as much or more than my whole set up ( this led me to buy the hids in the first place) and reportedly last 1/8th as long.
So that makes a theoretical halogen replacement ( using like PIAA or something, or nighthawk super duper) as much much more expensive, with ebay sets now under 40$ and even cheap bright halogens are 20$




There might be a diy cleaning of old ellipsoids here, Im sure there is I confess I havent read it.
What you described, wanting a band aid for old projectors..... thats me! You got it. My headlights were worthless so I could clean replace or..... for even cheaper than brighter bulbs BAND AID.
You wrote that part out, perfectly I understand I'm doing that. I will actually quote you the next time someone asks this same question, you put the whole process to the right words.

I bought my hids with the thought that if getting brighter bulbs cant overcome the dinge in my headlights im going to have to replace them anyway, and for 45$ or whatever I paid I can put the hids in foglights if it doesnt work. So it was the fastest solution. I think most of us should raise our hand thats what we did the fastest solution to old headlights. And if hids last half as long as advertised theyre supposed to last years, realistically its the final solution any e30 owner will need.


And then one last thing.... nobody here likes blue hids so youre preaching to the choir. I have blue hids and I promise you it sucks. Way bluer than advertised, kind of just blue. Before you see them in person, you ( I) might be confused to think that the white color you are looking for is actually ice blue, but its not, its white. It looks very out of place on my car from the 80s to have blue headlights. It looks good on a 05 celica or some modern car. a 09 bmw 7 series, sometihng with giant 8 circle headlights with angel eyes.

[bmwman91]

Nah, there's no way to clean the reflector dishes. The reflective metallic coating is microns thick to begin with. It oxidizes & tarnishes, and any attempt to wipe that off takes off the whole coating. The only way to fix that would to meticulously clean the palstic (removing all old coatings) and find some place to re-do the CVD (chemical vapor deposition) coating. It is unlikely that one would find a shop that does that, and if they did, it would probably cost more than new lights.