HID's: Myth or fact?

[Benjamin_Button]

Prolonged usage (over the course of many years) of HIDS in projectors will eventually burn through the wiring? Please let me know your experiences. Thanks!

[AndrewBird]

False. The wiring will handle as much current as it was rated for, regardless of where the current draw is coming from. As long as you don't change out the fuses for higher amperage ones, you won't hurt the wiring.

However, HID are not meant to be used in projectors design for halogen bulbs. The only proper way to run HID's in an e30 is swap the entire projector housing out for an HID one. Stock ellipsoids do not focus light from an HID bulb properly.

Easiest way is this:

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=310439

[Benjamin_Button]

False. The wiring will handle as much current as it was rated for, regardless of where the current draw is coming from. As long as you don't change out the fuses for higher amperage ones, you won't hurt the wiring.

However, HID are not meant to be used in projectors design for halogen bulbs. The only proper way to run HID's in an e30 is swap the entire projector housing out for an HID one. Stock ellipsoids do not focus light from an HID bulb properly.

Easiest way is this:

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=310439

Alright thank you. Will look into this product.

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[Varinn]

Agreed with the other guy, take a look at the kit. I ordered up a set of the adapters and the Morimoto Mini H1's from TRS. The adapters should arrive soon, the TRS kit showed up yesterday and it looks to be decent in quality. Don't put HID's in stock housings and expect it to be great.

[Benjamin_Button]

False. The wiring will handle as much current as it was rated for, regardless of where the current draw is coming from. As long as you don't change out the fuses for higher amperage ones, you won't hurt the wiring.

However, HID are not meant to be used in projectors design for halogen bulbs. The only proper way to run HID's in an e30 is swap the entire projector housing out for an HID one. Stock ellipsoids do not focus light from an HID bulb properly.

Easiest way is this:

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=310439

Agreed with the other guy, take a look at the kit. I ordered up a set of the adapters and the Morimoto Mini H1's from TRS. The adapters should arrive soon, the TRS kit showed up yesterday and it looks to be decent in quality. Don't put HID's in stock housings and expect it to be great.

I looked over his product thread and I'm still a little confused. What exactly is this product suppose to do? Is this absolutely necessary? Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like just a crisper cutoff. I don't mean to bash his product in anyway just a little confused. Thanks.

[DER E30]

I looked over his product thread and I'm still a little confused. What exactly is this product suppose to do? Is this absolutely necessary? Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like just a crisper cutoff. I don't mean to bash his product in anyway just a little confused. Thanks.

The cutoff is a tiny part of it. The mirror part of the new projector focuses the light faaaaar more effectively. It's amazing how much more light gets out on the street along the cutoff, not shot at the ground 10 ft in front of the car. Totally worth it. I can see at least twice as good with my new lights ...

[Benjamin_Button]

The cutoff is a tiny part of it. The mirror part of the new projector focuses the light faaaaar more effectively. It's amazing how much more light gets out on the street along the cutoff, not shot at the ground 10 ft in front of the car. Totally worth it. I can see at least twice as good with my new lights ...

Are you running your setup with a relay or you plugged in straight to the stock wiring harness?


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[M-technik-3]

Modern HID's also have a stabilizer to prevent the dazzle effect when the car moves up and down.

[nando]

newer projectors are more efficient. that's basically what it boils down to.

yes, technically, the E30 projector wasn't designed for an HID. it doesn't mean it's awful - it just doesn't use the light as efficiently as it could, so the output isn't quite as good. but it works pretty well for what it is.

still doing a projector retrofit, since it's pretty easy & inexpensive these days. I want to play with bi-xenons and I do probably 2/3 of my E30 driving at night (or in the dark anyway, stupid PNW winters). One thing about newer projectors is they tend to focus the light further away from the car - the E30 projectors will put a bunch of light directly in front of the car.

I'm not really sure one is "better" than the other; some people don't like modern European projectors because they focus the light into more of a narrow beam (supposedly to work at high speeds on the autobahn or whatever). US style tend to have a wider focus. So I'm not even really sure how much "better" one is vs the other, more than it's just different or personal preference.

as far as the wiring, you don't need to worry about it. you don't need a special relay kit or some resistor thing that makes the check panel work - a quality setup should work fine on an E30, check panel and all. I think I've had HIDs in some form or other for 8 years now.

one guy was putting in huge fuses to make his work, which is a really bad idea - if the stock fuse is blowing, either the ballast is bad or there's a short in the wiring somewhere. the whole point of a fuse is that it protects your wiring, you can't draw more current than what the wiring supports unless you put in the wrong (larger) fuse.

[Benjamin_Button]

newer projectors are more efficient. that's basically what it boils down to.

yes, technically, the E30 projector wasn't designed for an HID. it doesn't mean it's awful - it just doesn't use the light as efficiently as it could, so the output isn't quite as good. but it works pretty well for what it is.

still doing a projector retrofit, since it's pretty easy & inexpensive these days. I want to play with bi-xenons and I do probably 2/3 of my E30 driving at night (or in the dark anyway, stupid PNW winters). One thing about newer projectors is they tend to focus the light further away from the car - the E30 projectors will put a bunch of light directly in front of the car.

I'm not really sure one is "better" than the other; some people don't like modern European projectors because they focus the light into more of a narrow beam (supposedly to work at high speeds on the autobahn or whatever). US style tend to have a wider focus. So I'm not even really sure how much "better" one is vs the other, more than it's just different or personal preference.

as far as the wiring, you don't need to worry about it. you don't need a special relay kit or some resistor thing that makes the check panel work - a quality setup should work fine on an E30, check panel and all. I think I've had HIDs in some form or other for 8 years now.

one guy was putting in huge fuses to make his work, which is a really bad idea - if the stock fuse is blowing, either the ballast is bad or there's a short in the wiring somewhere. the whole point of a fuse is that it protects your wiring, you can't draw more current than what the wiring supports unless you put in the wrong (larger) fuse.

This was very informative thank you! What hid kit are you running? As far as aiming, I've heard the stock position is nearly perfect, is this true?

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[DER E30]

Are you running your setup with a relay or you plugged in straight to the stock wiring harness?


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