Attempting K9 Eclipse Alarm install (kudos stereoinstaller)

[dr.gonzo]

Hey guys instead of starting a new thread im just asking a question in this one. Does anyone have pictures or the wires i need to get to inside the kickpanel so i can trip the locks into locking instead of installing the alarm in the trunk.

[williegarvin]

Okay, tried it and worked like a charm, super easy. Thanks for the suggestion, I was glad I didn't have to randomly poke holes in the firewall with a hanger. The alarm works perfectly with no glitches. Only problem was getting that big metal/foam thingy under the instrument trim panel back on. Took me about 2 hours and a lot of pushing/straining/banging with a hammer. Finally got it back on but a little deformed.

What I do is easy, quick and clean.

First, mount the siren under the battery tray. Hides it nicely and makes tons of noise.

Second, look at the grommet for the ECU. There are 3 or 4 small nipples on the grommet itself....snip one off and slip the wire through.

Now, you can reach behind the glovebox and grab that wire. Tape the wire to the end of a coathanger and feed it in front of the heater box, about 10" off the floor, right along the firewall. You will see it pop out the other side.

GL!

Luke

[StereoInstaller1]

By the way, I saw that you strongly recommend not installing the starter kill. Is there a reason? Are they prone to failing?

All relays today are made in China. So yeah, "prone to failure" is a good euphemism for "fucking dirtball heap of rancid shit blah blah blah"

[williegarvin]

ThanksLuke that sounds simple and I'll try it when I get home from work today if it doesn't rain. By the way, I saw that you strongly recommend not installing the starter kill. Is there a reason? Are they prone to failing?

What I do is easy, quick and clean.

First, mount the siren under the battery tray. Hides it nicely and makes tons of noise.

Second, look at the grommet for the ECU. There are 3 or 4 small nipples on the grommet itself....snip one off and slip the wire through.

Now, you can reach behind the glovebox and grab that wire. Tape the wire to the end of a coathanger and feed it in front of the heater box, about 10" off the floor, right along the firewall. You will see it pop out the other side.

GL!

Luke

[StereoInstaller1]

I was wondering how do you guys route the wires from the siren from the hood to the under the steering wheel?

What I do is easy, quick and clean.

First, mount the siren under the battery tray. Hides it nicely and makes tons of noise.

Second, look at the grommet for the ECU. There are 3 or 4 small nipples on the grommet itself....snip one off and slip the wire through.

Now, you can reach behind the glovebox and grab that wire. Tape the wire to the end of a coathanger and feed it in front of the heater box, about 10" off the floor, right along the firewall. You will see it pop out the other side.

GL!

Luke

[williegarvin]

Thanks, I was hoping I wouldn't have to do something like that but I guess I'll have to.

hey man, you're gonna have to use a coat hanger and poke a hole through that rubber insulation where u see the wires coming through the fireway on the driver side under the steering column.

make sure when you get the wire in place put some rubber sement or sealant around it or your floor pan will have holes by the end of the year

[e30slut]

hey man, you're gonna have to use a coat hanger and poke a hole through that rubber insulation where u see the wires coming through the fireway on the driver side under the steering column.

make sure when you get the wire in place put some rubber sement or sealant around it or your floor pan will have holes by the end of the year

[williegarvin]

I was wondering how do you guys route the wires from the siren from the hood to the under the steering wheel? I can't seem to find an easy way to do it. I see where some insulated bundles of wires go to the interior, but there doesn't seem to be room to squeeze a wire in there (or at least I don't know how). Any help appreciated!

[e30slut]

man, you're the shit

[StereoInstaller1]

Brown/purple

[e30slut]

my alarm has a 30-sec (-) trigger for when the key is removed or the car is disarmed...

I figured I can use this for my domelight. Anybody know wich wire triggers the domelight?

[StereoInstaller1]

Yeah, that line was unintellegible.

99% of the japanese cars that run on negative trigger work just fine without relays, but I have yet to get by without relays on an E30 in recent times...older alarms had beefier transistors and would run the central lock system, but nothing I know of today will.

Not saying that there isn't anything out there that will throw a full amp of current, but none of the current DEI, Audiovox or Scytek will. All 3 of those guys OE for other manufacturers (especially Scytek) and make 95% of all alarms sold today.

So much for quality, right?

[reelizmpro]

The diagram was from a damaged PDF file. It was all I could find from Omega. Yes, it shows their DLS module with relays but note the last sentence of the paragraph. "In most cases, vehicles that have this type of power doorlock system may be wired direct, because all that's needed to operate the vehicle's relays are - Ground pulses." They're saying here's how you hook up our doorlock relay module IF you need it.

[reelizmpro]

I couldn't see my other post...weird.

Alright, I just took a closer look at my M3 and there is a wire ran to the light. This is probably the case on all my E30's. They must have tapped between the trunk and the door switch circuit somewhere because I saw no additional wiring in the front kickpanel. So it looks like you guys were right about that.

I was thinking tap into trunklight circuit in the kickpanel somewhere and measure current in the existing wire. There still is no need to run a wire if the alarm as you stated has current sensing. Turns out that the K9 eclipse has current sensing.

The diagram was from a damaged PDF file. It was all I could find from Omega. Yes, it shows their DLS module with relays but note the last sentence of the paragraph. "In most cases, vehicles that have this type of power doorlock system may be wired direct, because all that's needed to operate the vehicle's relays are - Ground pulses." They're saying here's how you hook up our doorlock relay module IF you need it.

[StereoInstaller1]

Alright, I just took a closer look at my M3 and there is a wire ran to the light. This is probably the case on all my E30's. They must have tapped between the trunk and the door switch circuit somewhere because I saw no additional wiring in the front kickpanel. So it looks like you guys were right about that. No need to be a dickhead about it.

That's what I was thinking... tap into trunklight circuit in the kickpanel somewhere and measure current in the existing wire. The Viper in my old 85 325e installed by my uncle was before 92 so it makes sense.

I did not see this post...so yeah, that makes sense.

Many cars DO have a wire somewhere up front that is a trunk trigger, so that was likely what you were thinking of.

No worries, man.