OK heres my advice.
My taste in Music: SQ, all types of music, but mainly jazz and vocals because they sound best in systems. I like music as actuate as possible. I want to hear music in my car like i'm hearing it at a concert, and not twinkling tweets, bass so loud it brings out all the rattles in the trunk. Everything has to be infront of you.
I currently run A/D/S 345is comps. Sub: ID MAX 12 sealed box. Midbass drivers: Vifa PL.
Amps: PPI art series and USX
Speakers are really your own preference. MB quarts are alright, a bit bright for my taste. I say bright because they are really clear, but its' so bright/clear that it sounds kinda of fake. Personally, i am running A/D/S, and i say save your money. The old A/D/S was good stuff, but the new line A/D/S look better then they sound, since they have been brought out by DEI. So if you get A/D/S get the old stuff, i'm telling you this because i have the new line, their alright, but i'm going to switch them out sooner or later. AND Yes listen to KEN, get 6.5 speakers and components if possible. Components would be great because the tweeters will bring your staging up high on the dash.
As for metal tweeters vs. soft tweeters. Soft tweeters are more ear piercing then metal. Metal tweeters are loud, but their more like a ported sub box, it emphasis on a range of certain higher frequency and kind of loses its' "eummpphhh" at the really high frequencys. While soft tweeters are smoother and can reach these high frequency extenstions no problem where it would hurt your ears, kinda of like how a sealed sub box which could reach the low frequencys well. My preference is soft because they are more smoother overall and isn't peakie.
As for BASS, whatever size sub you get, makesure the box is built to manufacturer spec. They designed the sub so they know best. But like everyone here says E30s suck because it has trunk bass. YOU want BASS to be TRANSPARENT. Many people get into my car and ask me why dont you turn up your sub, i'm like it is up, its just that the bass is so transparent you can't tell its up. I pity these people that tell me to turn up my bass because they need to hear trunk bass, they need all the rattles in the trunk to come out inorder to know that they have BASS, sigh
. You can't have more bass then what your trunk can handle or else u are only listening to rattles and your system wont' be clean and clear. One trick would be to put down the center arm rest, not all of us have this, so therefore i took out my rear speakers and i cut better holes into the rear deck to let in bass. People dont' trip about the rear speakers, music is played infront of you, and not all around you. When your at a concert the singer is on the stage infront of you, and not in front and in the back, and our decks ain't 5.1 surround sound. Doing those things helps a bit, but the bass is still not quite transparent. You need MID BASS drivers. MID BASS IS KEY!!!. Mid bass will move your bass to the front stage and make your bass transparent and snapper, so that way you can't hear it coming from the back, all the bass will be infront of you. Mid bass drivers would be great, something like Lotus or other brands. But if you dont want midbass drivers this is when 6.5 inch speakers are beautiful. With enough power 6.5 will give you enough midbass to move the bass from the trunk forward.
Now if you want to go all out, speakers down in the stock kick area suck, make some kick panels that way you would have perfect imaging as well as staging. Or i would build custom pods in the door like what jordan has been doing, then you could use time alignment to fix the imaging if u want to save leg room, which i'm probably doing to try out this summer b/c my kicks take up too much space. Also get a nice deck with some good features like time alignment, and Parametric EQ, so you could tune yoru system. If you dont like the way your system sounds, you coudl tune it until it sounds the way you want it. And if you want to go all out, get the best equiment like TRU or Arc audio amps, that way you could never blame that equiment to not sound good, it's just you can't install and tune it to sound good. A nice install will make a big difference. A nicely install and tunning with just regular sony equiment could blow a poorly installed systemw with the best equiment anyday.
-gil
My taste in Music: SQ, all types of music, but mainly jazz and vocals because they sound best in systems. I like music as actuate as possible. I want to hear music in my car like i'm hearing it at a concert, and not twinkling tweets, bass so loud it brings out all the rattles in the trunk. Everything has to be infront of you.
I currently run A/D/S 345is comps. Sub: ID MAX 12 sealed box. Midbass drivers: Vifa PL.
Amps: PPI art series and USX
Speakers are really your own preference. MB quarts are alright, a bit bright for my taste. I say bright because they are really clear, but its' so bright/clear that it sounds kinda of fake. Personally, i am running A/D/S, and i say save your money. The old A/D/S was good stuff, but the new line A/D/S look better then they sound, since they have been brought out by DEI. So if you get A/D/S get the old stuff, i'm telling you this because i have the new line, their alright, but i'm going to switch them out sooner or later. AND Yes listen to KEN, get 6.5 speakers and components if possible. Components would be great because the tweeters will bring your staging up high on the dash.
As for metal tweeters vs. soft tweeters. Soft tweeters are more ear piercing then metal. Metal tweeters are loud, but their more like a ported sub box, it emphasis on a range of certain higher frequency and kind of loses its' "eummpphhh" at the really high frequencys. While soft tweeters are smoother and can reach these high frequency extenstions no problem where it would hurt your ears, kinda of like how a sealed sub box which could reach the low frequencys well. My preference is soft because they are more smoother overall and isn't peakie.
As for BASS, whatever size sub you get, makesure the box is built to manufacturer spec. They designed the sub so they know best. But like everyone here says E30s suck because it has trunk bass. YOU want BASS to be TRANSPARENT. Many people get into my car and ask me why dont you turn up your sub, i'm like it is up, its just that the bass is so transparent you can't tell its up. I pity these people that tell me to turn up my bass because they need to hear trunk bass, they need all the rattles in the trunk to come out inorder to know that they have BASS, sigh
. You can't have more bass then what your trunk can handle or else u are only listening to rattles and your system wont' be clean and clear. One trick would be to put down the center arm rest, not all of us have this, so therefore i took out my rear speakers and i cut better holes into the rear deck to let in bass. People dont' trip about the rear speakers, music is played infront of you, and not all around you. When your at a concert the singer is on the stage infront of you, and not in front and in the back, and our decks ain't 5.1 surround sound. Doing those things helps a bit, but the bass is still not quite transparent. You need MID BASS drivers. MID BASS IS KEY!!!. Mid bass will move your bass to the front stage and make your bass transparent and snapper, so that way you can't hear it coming from the back, all the bass will be infront of you. Mid bass drivers would be great, something like Lotus or other brands. But if you dont want midbass drivers this is when 6.5 inch speakers are beautiful. With enough power 6.5 will give you enough midbass to move the bass from the trunk forward.Now if you want to go all out, speakers down in the stock kick area suck, make some kick panels that way you would have perfect imaging as well as staging. Or i would build custom pods in the door like what jordan has been doing, then you could use time alignment to fix the imaging if u want to save leg room, which i'm probably doing to try out this summer b/c my kicks take up too much space. Also get a nice deck with some good features like time alignment, and Parametric EQ, so you could tune yoru system. If you dont like the way your system sounds, you coudl tune it until it sounds the way you want it. And if you want to go all out, get the best equiment like TRU or Arc audio amps, that way you could never blame that equiment to not sound good, it's just you can't install and tune it to sound good. A nice install will make a big difference. A nicely install and tunning with just regular sony equiment could blow a poorly installed systemw with the best equiment anyday.
-gil
i feel the same way. many people say the same thing to me. mine is turned all the way down to, its perfect, its all about the vocals and midbass. (i think the people that turn their subs all the way up are the ones with stock speakers. they probabally dont want people to hear their crapy system so they hide it with their subs :roll: ).
I was very impresed. If I can find them, they are going in my car when im ready to finish the system. I actually found a set of 4 speakers. I believe they were 6 inch midbass and 4 inch mids with all the cross-overs, and the tweeters, some other acc's. It had a 250 buy it now on ebay, which is not bad at all. What amp do you usually recommed with most of their line?
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