Stiffening the convertible chassis

[CorvallisBMW]

There is no way I'm going to copy the mason x-brace. As far as I am concerned, his piece is perfect the way it is and I can't see anything that could be improved. Pirating music off the internet is one thing, but pirating a fellow E30 enthusiasts design (and his business) is definitely FTL.

Besides, $275 is a fucking bargain for the improvement you get out of that thing. John Mason is the man :up:

But for you Bimmerboy12, I'd save up for a paint job first. That thing looks like shit...

[jjmtools]

Mason Engineering Products

All our products are designed so that the average person can directly bolt on without fitting, welding or any other dramas.
As we understand not everybody has a fully equiped fab shop therefore our products are designed to be assembled in the home garage. We are always available to answer technical questions. This engineering plan allows the do it yourselfer to utilize our products without professional installation costs. Go to our website to get additional technical information and strength of materials physical properties.
masonengineering.net
Thanks guys

[bimmerboy12]

There is no way I'm going to copy the mason x-brace. As far as I am concerned, his piece is perfect the way it is and I can't see anything that could be improved. Pirating music off the internet is one thing, but pirating a fellow E30 enthusiasts design (and his business) is definitely FTL.

Besides, $275 is a fucking bargain for the improvement you get out of that thing. John Mason is the man :up:

But for you Bimmerboy12, I'd save up for a paint job first. That thing looks like shit...

ease up, buddy. as stated before, those weren't my intentions, I wrongly assumed it was welded up in China or something.

I'm over it, are you?

Let's let John Mason enjoy everybody's praise now, unless you want to use the space to slander my E30.

[BDK]

First off, I plan on buying the Xbrace from Mason,
Second, if Corvallis or Mason would be interested in making the square tube version of the butt strut, I would be down for one of those as well...

Third, and not trying to hijack the thread but

Pirating music off the internet is one thing, but pirating a fellow E30 enthusiasts design (and his business) is definitely FTL

actually it is no different,
a family member is a well known recording artist and it kills the artists. It's the label making the $$$ money not the artist, if you truly like the artist then show them respect and then spend the money to buy their music...

[SpecM]

I support John Mason and Mark D'Silva

in spirit, that is

[CorvallisBMW]

All our products are designed so that the average person can directly bolt on without fitting, welding or any other dramas.
As we understand not everybody has a fully equiped fab shop therefore our products are designed to be assembled in the home garage.

And believe me, it shows. I was able to install the x-brace in under 30 minutes with nothing but my jack/stands, a wrench and a few sockets.

[Naplm00]

hey where does that front brace bolt to?

can you give a recap of what you have on your car?

front and rear braces? upper or lower?


I washtinking of doin the Xbrace and a front strut brace and leaving it at that


I figured that the huge metal box behind my rear seat will not flex so much

oh im in a 88 cabbie

[CorvallisBMW]

hey where does that front brace bolt to?

can you give a recap of what you have on your car?

front and rear braces? upper or lower?

I've already covered all this several times earlier in the thread.

oh im in a 88 cabbie

doesn't matter, they're all the same except for the bumpers.

[sefb222]

Mr Mason, does your X-brace work with an M30 swap?

if so, im down to buy one.... asap.

[Dillinger]

I have been all over these braces including this x asking questions and pretty much came up with dick untill I emailed the banned guy from zen directly who I guess did a bunch of testing I surched in here too.

Point being all these questins have already been answered surch dccolegrove he's banned but only half as weird as jjmtools.

[CorvallisBMW]

I have been all over these braces including this x asking questions and pretty much came up with dick untill I emailed the banned guy from zen directly who I guess did a bunch of testing I surched in here too.

Point being all these questins have already been answered surch dccolegrove he's banned but only half as weird as jjmtools.

spellcheck dude, seriously.

What kind of questions do you have? Why don't you just go to their website and use the 'contact us' page?

[bimmerking1357]

impressed

thats fricken awesome what you did. i have a cabrio and i have been worrying about how to stiffen up the chassis but you have given me faith..hahaha no but seriously thats totally awesome what you did.

[MC Hammered]

ACTUALLY
I lowered the price to $275 for the steel brace plus UPS shipping

I thank you guys for your ethics
and yes the prototyping and R&D was not an easy picnic

JOHN MASON

Is there difference between the steel and aluminum versions other than the weight?

With the steel version would rust be an issue if the powdercoating gets scratched off?

[jjmtools]

Mason x brace

WEIGHTS and PHYSICAL PROPERTIES
GO TO MASONENGINEERING.NET for chart/graph showing strength and benefits of chosen bar materials
YES the braces are directly bolt on = no cutting,drilling,welding
YES the install can be accomplished by the average mechanically astute car owner,although proficient professional expertise is always recomended
YES steel is stronger but heavier and does corrode in our lifetime,I believe the aluminum alloy is 2x stronger in compressoin load situation,steel is stronger in tension/compression
paint scratches should be touched up with hi grade spray paint aerosol
Yes the driving feel reflects -solid handling improvements and the overall upgrade have been substantial according to end users
CARBON STEEL X = 5 LB ALUMINUM ALLOY6061T6511 X = 3 LB
BRACES = fit all E30 chassis

[decay]

actually it is no different,
a family member is a well known recording artist and it kills the artists. It's the label making the $$$ money not the artist, if you truly like the artist then show them respect and then spend the money to buy their music...

so, the label makes the money, not the artist... therefore, if we like the artist we should give our money to the label? maybe you should have thought about that a bit longer, or proofread your post...

tell you what. rather than spending money buying CDs which i might or might not like, i'll download what i want to, delete what i don't like, and support an artist DIRECTLY by going to their show when they're in my area, and sharing their music with other people who might also like it. if you're truly looking out for the best interest of the artist, you should have no problem with that whatsoever; the only guy who gets "hurt" is the unnecessary middle man.

back on topic- the guy restoring my cabrio said chassis flex was "very evident" after the suspension upgrade. i've supported Mason Engineering by picking up original unpirated steel versions of both the strut tower bar and the X-brace. ;)