Race Skids now offer Butt Brace

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  • ejnight
    Forum Sponsor
    • Apr 2007
    • 3488

    #1

    Race Skids now offer Butt Brace

    E30/BB Rear Butt Brace 84 to 93 E30 BMW

    Shipped Price:
    $278.00



    Stiffens up the rear end of the BMW significantly over stock. Must have for the convertible. Not recommended for severely lowered cars.

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  • OldManHenry
    Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 44

    #2
    Seems very high for the engineering and material involved... look at the garagistic X brace in comparison. Similar price, loads of welds and material, same sort of intention of chassis stiffening. Wouldn't be opposed to putting one in my car as it seems like an easy bolt in upgrade but I wouldn't pay that.

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    • mazzo
      Wrencher
      • Jul 2014
      • 264

      #3
      ^^ Price a little high :)
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      • McGyver
        R3V Elite
        • Jun 2009
        • 4427

        #4
        Where would this go?
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        • 15Michaeljoseph
          E30 Mastermind
          • Aug 2013
          • 1693

          #5
          Kinda seems a bit steep for a piece that's essentially a fixed sway bar with mounting holes... looks a lot less complicated than.... Say, a front strut brace.

          So how does it mount up?

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          • ejnight
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            • Apr 2007
            • 3488

            #6
            Originally posted by McGyver
            Where would this go?


            This bolts under the rear to to the rear subframe bolts. I understand you think it's a little steep. $279 shipped is a fair price. There is a lot that goes in to bringing a part form a one off to a production part.
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            • Mwishlist
              E30 Addict
              • Jul 2013
              • 505

              #7
              In for some pics on the car with exhaust, clearance etc.
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              • mr2peak
                R3VLimited
                • Aug 2008
                • 2388

                #8
                That's a whole lot more than I would every pay for that piece, and I just dropped money on a Mason X Brace..
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                • E30335i
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 1035

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ejnight
                  This bolts under the rear to to the rear subframe bolts. I understand you think it's a little steep. $279 shipped is a fair price. There is a lot that goes in to bringing a part form a one off to a production part.
                  How was this design compared to bolting it from somewhere under the middle of the car to the subframe bolts?

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                  • ejnight
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                    • Apr 2007
                    • 3488

                    #10
                    Originally posted by E30335i
                    How was this design compared to bolting it from somewhere under the middle of the car to the subframe bolts?
                    I did not work on that as a way to go. This was a proven concept, so I went for it.
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                    • dude8383
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                      • Jan 2005
                      • 10387

                      #11
                      I think people are confusing this with the x-brace. You should probably put up a photo of placement.

                      FYI for those that don't know, this helps the vert's feel more solid.

                      The other option is a lot more expensive:

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                      • GT BMW E30
                        R3VLimited
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 2491

                        #12
                        Maybe today or this week I will take some pics of mine and post them up.

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                        • ejnight
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                          • Apr 2007
                          • 3488

                          #13
                          Up for installed pics?
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                          • jeffnhiscars
                            R3V OG
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 6010

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dude8383
                            I think people are confusing this with the x-brace. You should probably put up a photo of placement.

                            FYI for those that don't know, this helps the vert's feel more solid.

                            The other option is a lot more expensive:

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                            http://www.strong-strut.com/Butt-Strut.htm
                            It's not that much more considering the extra heft the Strong Strut appears to have. I can see where a tubular brace will keep the anchor points (subframe bolts) from spreading but don't see how it would limit twisting.
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                            • validius
                              Advanced Member
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 161

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jeffnhiscars
                              It's not that much more considering the extra heft the Strong Strut appears to have. I can see where a tubular brace will keep the anchor points (subframe bolts) from spreading but don't see how it would limit twisting.
                              Forcing the portion of the rear end to move as a parallelogram where the top is the chassis, the sides are the subframe bushings and the bottom is the butt brace could be meaningfully stronger than the open 'C' that exists without.

                              It is counter intuitive that such deflection exists. I would question the benefit of this bar strongly if i hadn't also heard positive reviews from people who had put even mild polly rear subframe bushings in. Doing this would allow the rear subframe to act as more of a stressed member under similar conditions as the butt brace would be a benefit.

                              It makes me worry about the load on the subframe bolts & mounting points. To make a meaningful difference in chassis flex i imagine there would be considerable force in directions not necessarily intended by the chassis engineers.
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