How To Guide - E36 Steering Rack Swap

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  • jeffnhiscars
    R3V OG
    • Jun 2011
    • 6010

    #811
    FYI AKG has the e30>e36 rack adaptor kit on sale for $20@. I got 2 to my door for $45.75 shipped
    Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

    https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
    Alice the Time Capsule
    http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
    87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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    • Qik-BMW
      Noobie
      • Jan 2013
      • 32

      #812
      Please Help

      Hey guys, I am trying to do this swap to my 1985 grey market 320i with Manuel steering non airbag. The problem I am having is finding a steering shaft that looks like the op's. I have had BMW fax me pictures and they find no steering shaft that looks like the ones on here that you install the spacers on which I think are non airbag shafts. BMW tells me that all e30 s 1985 and up have airbag. If anyone has one for sale or has a part #, or any other idea, please let me know.
      Thanks in advance.

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      • Qik-BMW
        Noobie
        • Jan 2013
        • 32

        #813
        Originally posted by Jim Lepage
        I did the same setup than chrisnxl185.

        Someone please give me the part# to this steering shaft, or if anyone has a used one for sale. I need one ASAP.
        Thanks

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        • jeffnhiscars
          R3V OG
          • Jun 2011
          • 6010

          #814
          Ive done 2 swaps in the last 18 months (about to do a 3rd) on an 84, 87 & 89 (all non airbag) and thats the exact same knuckle on all of them. Go to a junk yard or post in the WTB section for a non airbag knuckle and you'll get one. The knuckle adaptor kit is about $25

          You really do not want to know what a dealer is going to charge you for a new one.
          Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

          https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
          Alice the Time Capsule
          http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
          87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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          • Qik-BMW
            Noobie
            • Jan 2013
            • 32

            #815
            Originally posted by jeffnhiscars
            Ive done 2 swaps in the last 18 months (about to do a 3rd) on an 84, 87 & 89 (all non airbag) and thats the exact same knuckle on all of them. Go to a junk yard or post in the WTB section for a non airbag knuckle and you'll get one. The knuckle adaptor kit is about $25

            You really do not want to know what a dealer is going to charge you for a new one.
            I have all the parts and the adapter kit. Just need the steering shaft. I posted in the wtb last night and nothing as of yet. I figured out that BMW has redesigned the steering shaft, so a new one will not work

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            • jeffnhiscars
              R3V OG
              • Jun 2011
              • 6010

              #816
              Originally posted by Qik-BMW
              I have all the parts and the adapter kit. Just need the steering shaft. I posted in the wtb last night and nothing as of yet. I figured out that BMW has redesigned the steering shaft, so a new one will not work
              Have you checked the local bone yards ?

              PS Ive asked a buddy of mine if he has one and will PM you if he does.
              Last edited by jeffnhiscars; 03-23-2013, 10:46 AM.
              Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

              https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
              Alice the Time Capsule
              http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
              87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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              • Klug
                E30 Modder
                • Sep 2011
                • 804

                #817
                So i've searched this thread and google for quite a bit now. I cannot for the life of me remove the knuckle from the steering shaft. I have the split in the knuckle spread apart as much as possible and cannot seem to get it to drop. What techniques have you guys tried?

                Also tried a slide hammer setup on the rack end but it only puts stress on the guibo.
                555Garage - Kingston, PA

                '13 BMW e70 X5 35d
                '95 BMW e34 525i
                '92 BMW e30 325i S52 Vert (Quade the Vert)
                '92 Range Rover Classic
                '90 Range Rover Classic
                '89 BMW e30 325i Coupe (The DIRTY30)
                '81 VW MK1 Rabbit Caddy Diesel
                '76 Honda CB550K Cafe/Brat
                '67 Pontiac LeMans
                '24 Model T Depot Hack
                ....And a bunch of Motobecane, Puch, Garelli, Batavus and Honda 49cc-78cc Mopeds...

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                • jeffnhiscars
                  R3V OG
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 6010

                  #818
                  Originally posted by Klug
                  So i've searched this thread and google for quite a bit now. I cannot for the life of me remove the knuckle from the steering shaft. I have the split in the knuckle spread apart as much as possible and cannot seem to get it to drop. What techniques have you guys tried?

                  Also tried a slide hammer setup on the rack end but it only puts stress on the guibo.
                  You have to completely remove the bolt from the rack end as it locks in to a grove on the pinion shaft
                  Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

                  https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
                  Alice the Time Capsule
                  http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
                  87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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                  • Klug
                    E30 Modder
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 804

                    #819
                    Already removed the 13mm bolt from the end that clamps it down on the grooves

                    Last edited by Klug; 03-24-2013, 08:34 AM.
                    555Garage - Kingston, PA

                    '13 BMW e70 X5 35d
                    '95 BMW e34 525i
                    '92 BMW e30 325i S52 Vert (Quade the Vert)
                    '92 Range Rover Classic
                    '90 Range Rover Classic
                    '89 BMW e30 325i Coupe (The DIRTY30)
                    '81 VW MK1 Rabbit Caddy Diesel
                    '76 Honda CB550K Cafe/Brat
                    '67 Pontiac LeMans
                    '24 Model T Depot Hack
                    ....And a bunch of Motobecane, Puch, Garelli, Batavus and Honda 49cc-78cc Mopeds...

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                    • ridingsupreme
                      Noobie
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 26

                      #820
                      Sorry if this has been covered, sorry in advance for being a newb. I live by not fixing things that aren't broken. So my question is for a z3 rack conversion on my e30 do I really need to place all the ps hoses with the new rack? My originals are surprisingly still in great shape but the rack has taken a dump. I got lucky and got a granny's garage car. Only 134k on the dash. My theory is that a tighter ratio rack would have high hydraulic pressure requiring new lines but I'm a newb and not quite sure. Don't want to replace parts that still work fine.

                      I'm hoping to get away with merely swapping racks and modifying the steering knuckle. And obviously changing the fluid

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                      • Klug
                        E30 Modder
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 804

                        #821
                        Just a follow up, ended up using the tie-rod separator to get it to wedge itself off...what a pain in the neck...now I can't wait to slide the thing back on...ugh

                        btw, There isn't any finished knuckle pictures of e30tech's hardware kit, so here's my finished product.

                        555Garage - Kingston, PA

                        '13 BMW e70 X5 35d
                        '95 BMW e34 525i
                        '92 BMW e30 325i S52 Vert (Quade the Vert)
                        '92 Range Rover Classic
                        '90 Range Rover Classic
                        '89 BMW e30 325i Coupe (The DIRTY30)
                        '81 VW MK1 Rabbit Caddy Diesel
                        '76 Honda CB550K Cafe/Brat
                        '67 Pontiac LeMans
                        '24 Model T Depot Hack
                        ....And a bunch of Motobecane, Puch, Garelli, Batavus and Honda 49cc-78cc Mopeds...

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                        • jeffnhiscars
                          R3V OG
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 6010

                          #822
                          You will need to grind off the corners of the yokes so they will take a sharper angle without binding. The e30tech DIY should have pics of what to remove
                          Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

                          https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
                          Alice the Time Capsule
                          http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
                          87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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                          • Klug
                            E30 Modder
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 804

                            #823
                            Originally posted by jeffnhiscars
                            You will need to grind off the corners of the yokes so they will take a sharper angle without binding. The e30tech DIY should have pics of what to remove
                            Thanks! I wasn't aware I needed to do that.

                            Just incase any one here in the future needs to know. Grind so that its rounded out and it loses the squared end. The second arrow area (at the 3 o'clock position) should be grounded down by a few MMs as well.


                            555Garage - Kingston, PA

                            '13 BMW e70 X5 35d
                            '95 BMW e34 525i
                            '92 BMW e30 325i S52 Vert (Quade the Vert)
                            '92 Range Rover Classic
                            '90 Range Rover Classic
                            '89 BMW e30 325i Coupe (The DIRTY30)
                            '81 VW MK1 Rabbit Caddy Diesel
                            '76 Honda CB550K Cafe/Brat
                            '67 Pontiac LeMans
                            '24 Model T Depot Hack
                            ....And a bunch of Motobecane, Puch, Garelli, Batavus and Honda 49cc-78cc Mopeds...

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                            • cormier
                              Grease Monkey
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 380

                              #824
                              Hmmm-- how sharp are your angles? I feel like mines pressed so far onto either side that the angle isn't that bad at all

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                              • ridingsupreme
                                Noobie
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 26

                                #825
                                Was my question too stupid? Lol come on humor me please.

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