How To: Coilovers and strut tube modification (with pictures!)

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  • ak-
    R3V OG
    • May 2009
    • 12422

    #196
    Originally posted by E30_(1st Musk)_
    ^ this is the answer i was looking for all along. thanks for people who tried to explain it to me. now both acolella76 and i need to find out what spring rates were allowed to run
    Nothing over 625lbs.

    1991 325iS turbo

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    • ak-
      R3V OG
      • May 2009
      • 12422

      #197
      Originally posted by acolella76
      That's what I'm thinking. If i decide to go with shortened koni's down the road, i dont want to have to recut, weld, measure, etc all over again
      If you do end up going with shorts down the road, you will have to cut the tube to match the insert's length. If you don't, and just add many spacers under it to compensate height, you will be back in the same position as Bilstein Sports.

      1991 325iS turbo

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      • E30_(1st Musk)_
        R3VLimited
        • May 2009
        • 2008

        #198
        Originally posted by ak-
        Nothing over 625lbs.
        then ide probably do 500/600..what are you running on your daily?
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        • ak-
          R3V OG
          • May 2009
          • 12422

          #199
          Originally posted by E30_(1st Musk)_
          then ide probably do 500/600..what are you running on your daily?
          440/5xx. Not sure what the rears are anymore(long story).
          Changing it to 550/626 soon with the short inserts.


          If you're used to low and stiff, my original rates are totally DDable.
          eg: girls don't complain.

          1991 325iS turbo

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          • E30_(1st Musk)_
            R3VLimited
            • May 2009
            • 2008

            #200
            Originally posted by ak-
            440/5xx. Not sure what the rears are anymore(long story).
            Changing it to 550/626 soon with the short inserts.


            If you're used to low and stiff, my original rates are totally DDable.
            eg: girls don't complain.
            haha ide want to be stiff. like 550/625 would be cool. but i also dont want to push it with the setup..

            stiff isn't a problem. specially if im going lower, and stiffer is better with a female passanger
            ]

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            • 10-66kruk
              E30 Addict
              • Nov 2009
              • 434

              #201
              which cars are the 45mm struts and 51mm?
              I ordered coilovers but I need to figure out which size strut housing I need.
              Car is a 85 e.
              also ordered a set for a 89 is...
              i tried searching couldn't find anything...
              sigpic-Thanks warren

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              • Massive Lee
                R3V OG
                • Sep 2006
                • 6782

                #202
                To be confirmed, but the 84-85 318i/Eta had the smaller inserts. Then it got to 51mm in 86. I suggest checking with www.RealOem.com

                BTW I got your PM buddy.
                Brake harder. Go faster. No shit.

                massivebrakes.com

                http://www.facebook.com/pages/Massiv...78417442267056





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                • 10-66kruk
                  E30 Addict
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 434

                  #203
                  Originally posted by Massive Lee
                  To be confirmed, but the 84-85 318i/Eta had the smaller inserts. Then it got to 51mm in 86. I suggest checking with www.RealOem.com

                  BTW I got your PM buddy.
                  Thanks Lee I will check.
                  I appreciate you providing the link didn't really know where to look on that one.
                  Cool ya I put my name down!
                  sigpic-Thanks warren

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                  • sticksdaman
                    R3VLimited
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 2987

                    #204
                    Lots of misconceptions in this thread. Too many people spread these rumors or ideas around with little to no first hand experience.

                    You do NOT have to section your strut tubes with stock length bilstein sports. If you shorten your strut tubes you will need shortened shocks as you wont be able to fit any stock length shocks koni's, bilstein or otherwise.

                    Bilstein sports are just fine with coilovers as long as you run moderate rates. I'm running 450/650 and the ride is stiff but not bouncy. I've been driving the car daily since april, not a hiccup.


                    Lastly, for those going back and forth on whether or not to go the conversion, JUST DO IT! It all makes sense once you take your old assembly apart and lay everything out in front of you. And don't cheap out on shocks, they are THE most important part of the setup.
                    Originally posted by ebelements
                    Also, for those who don't know, negative camber is the greatest thing since sliced bread(panera). Even tire wear is for city busses and the elderly.

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                    • Chrisv006
                      Grease Monkey
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 375

                      #205
                      I am about to go ahead and do this project next week...but I had just one question -

                      Why just cut off 1"? Wouldnt 1.5" or 2" allow for more travel. I understand you would need to set the coilver higher to obtain the same height, but where is the optimal amount to cut off?

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                      • timofeylbelarus
                        Grease Monkey
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 326

                        #206
                        where would you get the adjustable sleeve? and how much?
                        sigpic

                        1985 325e - wrecked :( (being fixed and full paint job)
                        http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=197989
                        the horrible day
                        http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=210850
                        1991 318i - in process of being made a DD
                        http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=219793

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                        • JRKOUPE
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 3159

                          #207
                          Originally posted by timofeylbelarus
                          where would you get the adjustable sleeve? and how much?
                          GC may sell em to ya...

                          or any circle track speed shop has sleeves...

                          or pitstopusa...

                          or try Jegs

                          try summit too.
                          I love sitting down and just driving!

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                          • timofeylbelarus
                            Grease Monkey
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 326

                            #208
                            thanks ill check that out
                            sigpic

                            1985 325e - wrecked :( (being fixed and full paint job)
                            http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=197989
                            the horrible day
                            http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=210850
                            1991 318i - in process of being made a DD
                            http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=219793

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                            • AlarmedBread
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 1510

                              #209
                              Originally posted by timofeylbelarus
                              where would you get the adjustable sleeve? and how much?
                              http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Garage...Nut,45246.html

                              They have a lot of other hardware too.

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                              • mr.vang
                                R3V Elite
                                • May 2010
                                • 4371

                                #210
                                Originally posted by iliescu2
                                This.


                                Also, why not just cut the tube 4" and eliminate the spacer? It would go a lot lower.
                                ^agree. i don't get why you guys need 3" of spacer when you can just cut 4" off the housing and throw in a G60 shock.then screw in the shock holder to hold down the adjustable perch. then adjust your spring higher to make up for the lost of 4". that way the spring is preload or so what close to it.
                                Bought parts from me before? leave your feedback here

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