VEMS install

[DTMbimmer07]

About how long do you guys think it would take to install a VEMS if you have their generic wiring harness they sell? I'm looking into getting a local shop by me in orlando to put mine in for me and just wanted to get an idea of about how long and much money it will probably take.

[DTMbimmer07]

no one have any input?

[wazzu70]

With the VEMS harness it shouldn't take that long to fit it to your car. Its still going to take a couple hours though. Dont have any gnats nuts estimates though.

Most people make their own, so I have no idea how long it would take a shop to do it.

[DTMbimmer07]

I had a shop quote me 8-10($800-$1000) hours to install it. I thought that was a little long. What do you guys think.

[wazzu70]

I was going to say to plan a whole day. They probably are overestimating to make sure the job does not cost more than you are prepared to pay.

[DTMbimmer07]

Does anyone else have some experience with shops installing VEMS?

[nando]

seems cheap to me, honestly. how many VEMS systems have they installed?

why not make it PnP?

[DTMbimmer07]

They have never done it before. But they have installed a Pectal ecu in their e46 M3 race car.

Really? I thought it was a bit on the expensive side since i have the premade wiring harness from VEMS. Is there really that much more work still involved?

[nando]

Its a generic harness you said. They are going to have to learn the e30 wiring at the same time they are hooking up an unfamiliar system.

A pnp adapter would be significantly cheaper.

[wazzu70]

What Chris said. You just have the econoseal connectors and wires connected. They still need to figure where to route all the wires! Thats the tough part.

A PNP adapter would be so much faster and easier.

I can help you figure what VEMS pin goes to the motronic harness.

For my install I just cut the Motronic connector off and put those wires into the Econoseal plug. I then ran lines to everything else the factory Motronic did not come with.

[DTMbimmer07]

Starting to think that i should do this again. Cause for $800 i can get my turbo manifold and Dp. Only thing i really need help with i think is the wiring for my bosch motorsports coil 3x2. and then for the sensors with two wires.

[wazzu70]

The coil is easy! What sensors do you not know?

[nando]

What Chris said. You just have the econoseal connectors and wires connected. They still need to figure where to route all the wires! Thats the tough part.

A PNP adapter would be so much faster and easier.

I can help you figure what VEMS pin goes to the motronic harness.

For my install I just cut the Motronic connector off and put those wires into the Econoseal plug. I then ran lines to everything else the factory Motronic did not come with.

gunni makes a PCB based PnP adapter specifically for the M20. plug it in and go.

making your own is alway san option of course.

[wazzu70]

If Gunni already sells an M20 adapter....go that route!

[DTMbimmer07]

Do you guys know how much he charges for them? I still kind of want to use the wiring harness i have already though.