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  • NC325iC
    R3V OG
    • Mar 2004
    • 6565

    #1

    torquing

    how the hell do you torque header/downpipe bolts
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    Originally posted by TimKninja
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  • MR 325
    Moderator
    • Oct 2003
    • 37826

    #2
    You don't need to, just tighten the suckers
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    • Digitalwave
      is a poseur
      • Oct 2003
      • 6279

      #3
      Originally posted by MR 325
      You don't need to, just tighten the suckers
      Yes you do, the only ones I don't bother torquing are the ones that connect the downpipes to the cat-back. All you need to do it get creative with extensions and a universal joint to torque the connections at the manifolds.

      RISING EDGE

      Let's drive fast and have fun.

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      • MR 325
        Moderator
        • Oct 2003
        • 37826

        #4
        You do NOT need to torque the exhaust nuts, I don't care what any book says
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        • NC325iC
          R3V OG
          • Mar 2004
          • 6565

          #5
          well at the moment (after using an impact wrench) ive got exhaust leaking, ill go see what i can do about torquing them
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          Originally posted by TimKninja
          Im more afraid of this thread turning into one of those classic R3v moments, where Pizza gets delivered.

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          • BS87
            E30 Mastermind
            • Oct 2003
            • 1606

            #6
            I don't know about manifold->head, but manifold-> downpipes i torqued the ~2 i could then the rest i just tightened to all hell. Works fine.

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            • AndrewBird
              The Mad Scientist
              • Oct 2003
              • 11892

              #7
              Torque wrenches are pointless. Ask any older GOOD mechanic and he will tell you he never uses/used a torque wrench. It's all about feel. It's tight when it feels tight, not when a wrench tells you it is.

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              • zandi
                Mod Crazy
                • Apr 2004
                • 602

                #8
                Yeah shit, I gotta go return my torque wrench cuz its a piece of junk

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                • NC325iC
                  R3V OG
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 6565

                  #9
                  sometimes tight to one person aka a weak ass person like myself is differnt, so a torque wrench makes it so you know when its tight

                  and sometimes tight might be too tight for a bolt. not using a torque wrench could result in a bolt snapping off.
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                  Originally posted by TimKninja
                  Im more afraid of this thread turning into one of those classic R3v moments, where Pizza gets delivered.

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                  • AdamF 88iS
                    R3VLimited
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 2051

                    #10
                    I will bet that the torque spec for those bolts is a lot less than what your impact gun did to them.

                    I'd take it apart and check the gaskets.
                    Adam Fogg- '88 M3

                    Common sense- It's the new 'gifted'

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                    • Digitalwave
                      is a poseur
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 6279

                      #11
                      Originally posted by NitroRustlerDriver
                      Torque wrenches are pointless. Ask any older GOOD mechanic and he will tell you he never uses/used a torque wrench. It's all about feel. It's tight when it feels tight, not when a wrench tells you it is.
                      Maybe for a master mechanic that has been doing it for many years. That is some terrible advice you are giving for the kids on this forum though.

                      RISING EDGE

                      Let's drive fast and have fun.

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                      • hamann318is
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 3382

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Digitalwave
                        Originally posted by NitroRustlerDriver
                        Torque wrenches are pointless. Ask any older GOOD mechanic and he will tell you he never uses/used a torque wrench. It's all about feel. It's tight when it feels tight, not when a wrench tells you it is.
                        Maybe for a master mechanic that has been doing it for many years. That is some terrible advice you are giving for the kids on this forum though.
                        I don't use a torque wrench on the oil pan bolt. I felt very nervous torquing down the head because the second two stages involve you going 90-95 degrees, and we had no real way to guess that other than the eye. Torquing is something that I would always try to do at least.
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                        • zandi
                          Mod Crazy
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 602

                          #13
                          Torquing is not needed unless you are working on engine related parts, otherwise, it's not neccessary.

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                          • AndrewBird
                            The Mad Scientist
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 11892

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Digitalwave
                            Originally posted by NitroRustlerDriver
                            Torque wrenches are pointless. Ask any older GOOD mechanic and he will tell you he never uses/used a torque wrench. It's all about feel. It's tight when it feels tight, not when a wrench tells you it is.
                            Maybe for a master mechanic that has been doing it for many years. That is some terrible advice you are giving for the kids on this forum though.
                            Don't know if you noticed, but I'm a kid also. I've worked many hours and many cars (obviously not as many as some old-timers) and have never sheered a bolt off and have never had one come loose either.

                            And refering to what NC325iC said about sheering off bolts, its all in the feel. I can tell when a bolt is tight BEFORE it is anywhere near tight enough to sheer. It all depends though. Some people have the feel, others don't.

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                            • zandi
                              Mod Crazy
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 602

                              #15
                              Torque wrench is only 20 bucks, I don't see what the big deal is.

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