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  • Jaxx_
    E30 Mastermind
    • Dec 2009
    • 1880

    #16
    Originally posted by einstein57
    Sounds kinda lean sir. 14-15 afr readings under load are lean even for NA.
    I run 13.1 at WOT on my table, it goes there from 14.7 at 80kph and from 15.5 at cruise. It's about 14.7 at idle.

    What size are your injectors, EthirtyIS? I'm betting they're at 100% load and can't deliver enough fuel. You are going to burn a hole in a piston at those AFRs with any serious load. I would pull your spark plugs ASAP to make sure you don't have signs of detonation.
    '84 318i M10B18 147- Safari Beige
    NA: 93whp/90ftlbs, MS2E w/ LC, 2-Step
    Turbo: 221whp/214ftlbs, MS3x flex @ 17psi

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    • jaywood
      R3V Elite
      • Jul 2010
      • 4528

      #17
      I need a new laptop battery. These Afr's fly by me. I can't focus on a gauge and driving at the same time.

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      • Jaxx_
        E30 Mastermind
        • Dec 2009
        • 1880

        #18
        Originally posted by jaywood
        I need a new laptop battery. These Afr's fly by me. I can't focus on a gauge and driving at the same time.

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        i either log, have someone else drive, or stick to 3am wednesday night on the highway to do my tuning.
        '84 318i M10B18 147- Safari Beige
        NA: 93whp/90ftlbs, MS2E w/ LC, 2-Step
        Turbo: 221whp/214ftlbs, MS3x flex @ 17psi

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        • EthirtyIS
          Wrencher
          • Feb 2011
          • 270

          #19
          Yea, right now I'm on stock injectors, with everything stock, except an fmu. I just got my hands on 21 lbers, and a Walbaro 255, I'm in the middle of getting an apexi safc, then I just need a tps, and I should be set to tune everything up. I'm aiming for 14.7 idle, 14.7 at cruise, 12.5-13 WOT.
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          • Jaxx_
            E30 Mastermind
            • Dec 2009
            • 1880

            #20
            you shouldn't tune for AFRs on idle, tune for lowest vac value
            '84 318i M10B18 147- Safari Beige
            NA: 93whp/90ftlbs, MS2E w/ LC, 2-Step
            Turbo: 221whp/214ftlbs, MS3x flex @ 17psi

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            • einstein57
              R3V OG
              • Jun 2007
              • 10780

              #21
              Originally posted by Jaxx_
              you shouldn't tune for AFRs on idle, tune for lowest vac value
              That's contrary to pretty much every FMU write up i've ever read. But spot on for every standalone write up i've read.
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              • jaywood
                R3V Elite
                • Jul 2010
                • 4528

                #22
                Originally posted by einstein57
                that's contrary to pretty much every fmu write up i've ever read. But spot on for every standalone write up i've read.
                +1

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                • nando
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 34827

                  #23
                  Originally posted by einstein57
                  That's contrary to pretty much every FMU write up i've ever read. But spot on for every standalone write up i've read.
                  no, he's correct. to get the best idle quality, you should tune for the lowest load at idle, not for an AFR. AFRs are always secondary. if you want to target a leaner AFR, you can, but idle quality will suffer. the trade off is up to you.
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