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  • dirty thirty
    Grease Monkey
    • Feb 2009
    • 372

    #1

    turbo injectors selections!

    what is the most common injector used of a turbo m20.
    My build is a 2.7i with a stock eta bottom end and a ebay turbo kit,im goin with the dms ems system form blueapplesoda and he is saying my # 19 injectors are to small.

    i did some searching and found # 24 mustang injectors , but whats years mustang do they come out of 4.6 5.0?
    im only looking to get 300whp max , nothing to crazy !!

    what are you running!
    thanks


    Just out trying to build some boost !!
    Stroked and blown 328i @ 15psi
  • dirty thirty
    Grease Monkey
    • Feb 2009
    • 372

    #2
    whos running 42 lbs from ford out of a 5.4 supercharged


    Just out trying to build some boost !!
    Stroked and blown 328i @ 15psi

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    • sayed ali
      Mod Crazy
      • Jan 2012
      • 762

      #3
      42lbs should be fine for 300whp


      M20B28 Turbo

      My Build Thread

      http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=255839

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      • MR 325
        Moderator
        • Oct 2003
        • 37828

        #4
        When you're using MS you want to run large injectors. It's better to run a big injector at less duty cycle than a small injector at 100% duty cycle. I also have one of the DMS kits and Derek recommended I buy 42lb injectors which I am running now.
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        • dirty thirty
          Grease Monkey
          • Feb 2009
          • 372

          #5
          why is this ? you the injector isnt working so hard ?
          Originally posted by MR 325
          When you're using MS you want to run large injectors. It's better to run a big injector at less duty cycle than a small injector at 100% duty cycle. I also have one of the DMS kits and Derek recommended I buy 42lb injectors which I am running now.


          Just out trying to build some boost !!
          Stroked and blown 328i @ 15psi

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          • dirty thirty
            Grease Monkey
            • Feb 2009
            • 372

            #6
            42lbs out of a 5.4 supercharged ford lightning are here, dms ems kit earlie next week


            Just out trying to build some boost !!
            Stroked and blown 328i @ 15psi

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            • codrum
              Wrencher
              • Jan 2011
              • 279

              #7
              Injectors aren't meant to run at 100% duty cycle, you risk running into lean spots in your tune when atmospheric and other conditions change. Definitely err on the side of caution on this one and get decently sized injectors: 42lb/hr.

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              • Dj Buttchug
                R3V OG
                • Jun 2010
                • 7640

                #8
                as earlier stated bigger with ms is better. im running 970cc injectors on my m42 setup

                Turbo M42 Build Thread :Here
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                Originally posted by lambo
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                • codrum
                  Wrencher
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 279

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dj Buttchug
                  as earlier stated bigger with ms is better. im running 970cc injectors on my m42 setup
                  970cc is really large, how much boost are you running to require those? Don't forget if you go too big you lose tuning resolution in the lower RPMs and the idle can be hell to get right.

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                  • dirty thirty
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 372

                    #10
                    cc - lbs per hr what the conversion math?


                    Just out trying to build some boost !!
                    Stroked and blown 328i @ 15psi

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                    • codrum
                      Wrencher
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 279

                      #11
                      It's roughly a multiple of 10.5: 42lb/hr = 440cc

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                      • dirty thirty
                        Grease Monkey
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 372

                        #12
                        thanks!
                        Originally posted by codrum
                        It's roughly a multiple of 10.5: 42lb/hr = 440cc


                        Just out trying to build some boost !!
                        Stroked and blown 328i @ 15psi

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                        • Kvasi
                          E30 Enthusiast
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 1122

                          #13
                          On an 6syl you need atleast the same cc injectors as engine horsepower. 300 HP -> 300cc injectors, or bigger.
                          Going E85, add 40% injectorsize.

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                          • dirty thirty
                            Grease Monkey
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 372

                            #14
                            and is this fact or rule of thumb , 42lbs = 440 cc roughly . 440whp would be the most power i can put down ever? what about being boosted or nitrous?

                            Originally posted by Kvasi
                            On an 6syl you need atleast the same cc injectors as engine horsepower. 300 HP -> 300cc injectors, or bigger.
                            Going E85, add 40% injectorsize.


                            Just out trying to build some boost !!
                            Stroked and blown 328i @ 15psi

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                            • Q5Quint
                              Mod Crazy
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 725

                              #15
                              EFI, Fuel Injection, Auto, automotive, car, TPI, computation, ECU, MegaSquirt, GPIO, MicroSquirt, Sequencer, stim, MegaShift, MShift, DIY, transmission, 4L60E, 4L80E, controller, shifter


                              Note: I think this oversizes injectors a little bit. If your car comes with 14s and this equation tells you to use 17s with 175 hp....safe side.

                              I was hitting 64% duty cycle on 24s at 7.5 psi... 80% is the high mark so its getting close. If you are trying to go for 10psi and up you will want bigger injectors than the stock moronic can handle although some folks manage to make 32lbers work in there with a rrfpr and a lower start fuel pressure to keep the idle right and not run out of fuel under boost.

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