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    M20 MLS head gasket question?

    Currently running stock HG with ARP head studs, gt35 9psi. I blew it and thinking of just going with a MLS one being that I wanna run 12psi now. Can't seem to find a reputable company / site. Any suggestions?

    #2
    Don't. Rent the isky o-ring tool, o-ring block, install oem head gasket.
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      #3
      Originally posted by rc 415 View Post
      don't. Rent the isky o-ring tool, o-ring block, install oem head gasket.
      +1
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        #4
        True story. O ringing the block will be much better
        Originally posted by blunttech
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          #5
          Originally posted by Killacortes View Post
          True story. O ringing the block will be much better
          And cheaper
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          1987 Delphin 325IS
          LS1•TSP 228r• condor speed shop solid subframe, diff, fcab, mounts•Airlift air ride suspension•e36 ps rack•Eibach sways•16" Spal puller•bbk 310mm front & rear•17" BBS RS•
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            #6
            I have used Cometic MLS without issues.
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              #7
              Also, don't know why I didn't mention this, but if you popped a stock gasket with arps you have bigger issues than a bad head gasket. If you go and put an Mls or oring the block you risk internal engine damage due to the poor tune and stronger head gasket. Don't even think about turning the boost up until you figure out what caused the first one to pop. Not trying to be mean just know it blows to have to tear an engine apart twice or more in a short period of time. It will burn you out on the car
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              1987 Delphin 325IS
              LS1•TSP 228r• condor speed shop solid subframe, diff, fcab, mounts•Airlift air ride suspension•e36 ps rack•Eibach sways•16" Spal puller•bbk 310mm front & rear•17" BBS RS•
              Build Thread
              1993 alpine 2 325IC
              •Ground control coilovers•16" BBS RS• momo woodgrain

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                #8
                Originally posted by Rc 415 View Post
                Also, don't know why I didn't mention this, but if you popped a stock gasket with arps you have bigger issues than a bad head gasket. If you go and put an Mls or oring the block you risk internal engine damage due to the poor tune and stronger head gasket. Don't even think about turning the boost up until you figure out what caused the first one to pop. Not trying to be mean just know it blows to have to tear an engine apart twice or more in a short period of time. It will burn you out on the car
                Correct. Nothing is safe for detonation.

                Tune, tune, tune...
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                  #9
                  Yep you have other issues. Tune is everything. Kamotors is running like 22psi on old stock hg. I'm running 16 psi and 14psi for the past 25k with no issues and am waiting to get a tune to run 20psi.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by ForcedFirebird View Post
                    Correct. Nothing is safe for detonation.

                    Tune, tune, tune...
                    Especially if only @ 9psi :shock:
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rc 415 View Post
                      Also, don't know why I didn't mention this, but if you popped a stock gasket with arps you have bigger issues than a bad head gasket. If you go and put an Mls or oring the block you risk internal engine damage due to the poor tune and stronger head gasket. Don't even think about turning the boost up until you figure out what caused the first one to pop. Not trying to be mean just know it blows to have to tear an engine apart twice or more in a short period of time. It will burn you out on the car
                      Thanks for the advice and everyone else as well, no offense taken either. Yeah it was my fault that it blew I was told not to drive it hard being that the tune was not the best & no wide band. That was what I was debating weather to o-ring block or just run MLS HG. Think It's gonna be o-ring and run the 9psi EASY till I get a better tune. Now how hard is it to o-ring myself? Do I need to take the block out?
                      Last edited by GUERONASTY; 11-09-2012, 08:52 PM. Reason: spelling

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                        #12
                        Wise choice. invest in a wide band asap to save you money and time in the long run. You can do it block in, 6 is a bit tricky but doable.
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                        1987 Delphin 325IS
                        LS1•TSP 228r• condor speed shop solid subframe, diff, fcab, mounts•Airlift air ride suspension•e36 ps rack•Eibach sways•16" Spal puller•bbk 310mm front & rear•17" BBS RS•
                        Build Thread
                        1993 alpine 2 325IC
                        •Ground control coilovers•16" BBS RS• momo woodgrain

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by GUERONASTY View Post
                          Thanks for the advice and everyone else as well, no offense taken either. Yeah it was my fault that it blew I was told not to drive it hard being that the tune was not the best & no wide band. That was what I was debating weather to o-ring block or just run MLS HG. Think It's gonna be o-ring and run the 9psi EASY till I get a better tune. Now how hard is it to o-ring myself? Do I need to take the block out?

                          I did mine with the block in the car, take your time and the 6th cylinder is a bitch. I had to get creative with the oringing tool handle. The tune is the most important thing you can change or you will be blowing HGs on an oringed block. Gotta pay to play!
                          1987 325i-M60b44 swap

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rc 415 View Post
                            Wise choice. invest in a wide band asap to save you money and time in the long run. You can do it block in, 6 is a bit tricky but doable.
                            Originally posted by Zacm829 View Post
                            I did mine with the block in the car, take your time and the 6th cylinder is a bitch. I had to get creative with the oringing tool handle. The tune is the most important thing you can change or you will be blowing HGs on an oringed block. Gotta pay to play!
                            What one should I be looking at 100 GRM or 200 GRM?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Zacm829 View Post
                              I did mine with the block in the car, take your time and the 6th cylinder is a bitch. I had to get creative with the oringing tool handle. The tune is the most important thing you can change or you will be blowing HGs on an oringed block. Gotta pay to play!
                              Detonate with MLS of o-rings and the head gasket won't be the first thing to go, unfortunately.
                              john@m20guru.com
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                              Transaction feedback: Here, here and here. Thanks :D

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