How practical is supercharging a m20?

[Ether-D]

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=247668

Here's where Denny said he did it for a g.

[Ether-D]

not going to happen for $1k, tuned, even if you built it yourself.

That may be all the motivation he needs.

[nando]

for a grand with tuning? dyno time alone is about $100 an hour - and you need some way to be able to make a tune, either a WAR chip, EEPROM burner, or standalone.

not going to happen for $1k, tuned, even if you built it yourself.

also, if you can fabricate your own brackets etc, then you already have hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars worth of tools and equipment to use for that purpose.

[Ether-D]

I don't know. If you can build shit yourself, you can keep it sort of cheap. I think Denny said he did his supercharger for about a grand. You can get a m62 on cl for a buck fifty or so.

[1owNslo]

no

lol and this... for 1k... just do some N/A work. convert to a maf and maybe some headers if thats all you really have to blow. you arent gonna get by with 1k to do anything forced induction mi amigo.

[Buzztt]

Just brainstorming here, pretty unexperienced with mechanics, and i've heard that supercharging a car is typically cheaper/simpler than turbocharging a car.

So, basically I'm just wondering if that's really true. Is it a practical mod for about a 1k budget? I wouldn't want a massive supercharger, more of just a second hand one on craigslist.

no

[nando]

No kits for M20 eh? Search harder next time:

http://www.ccr-racing.com/shop/super...t-on-224p.html

Thats over $4000 and it doesn't include anything for tuning.

[Cletonius]

... if you are gonna mod the car... dont cut corners. do it right the first time or dont do it at all.

This.

OP: either way you go will be awesome, just plan everything out before you start buying parts.

[1owNslo]

^^ this!! is there a particular reason you want a supercharger over a turbo? have you considered N/A?? turbo and superchargers make boost yes, but in very different ways and have equally as many pros as cons to each system. personally this is what i think. Turbo to a certain extent is "free" extra hp. all you are doing is taking exhaust gases from the exhaust system, using that to spin a turbine to compress intake air and shove it into the engine... i.e. boost. Down side of turbo's kind of a pain in the ass to tune, and get pricey to maintain. lots of odds and ends. A supercharger harnesses boost from the mechanical spinning of either a centrifugal system or twin screw driven off a drive belt attached to the motor. so in this sense its not technically "free" hp as a turbo is because you need to use engine power to physically turn the supercharger thus in my opinion stealing some of that engine potential. many ppl may disagree but any additional mas the motor is forced to spin is power that the motor cant harness for its own "fun uses" so to speak. but they arent nearly as a complicated install and not as whoreish to tune. so you should think about what your endgame result will be, and what can you afford to do, and do it reliably. Like i keep telling my buddy with an e36 m3... if you are gonna mod the car... dont cut corners. do it right the first time or dont do it at all. Hope this helps

[Ray Smoodiver]

No kits for M20 eh? Search harder next time:

http://www.ccr-racing.com/shop/supercharger-bolt-on-224p.html

[pablo]

Also, pablo just noticed your from abq aswell. haha where in abq are you?

I'm in the north campus area. I spend most of my time away from home though.

[Carnifex]

For the supercharger? You'd have to make sure the pulley is indexed properly with a drive pulley. Belts don't like misalignment, if its off square, or forward or aft whatever you drive it off of, you'll have issues with the belt wearing or throwing it off all together.

Like nando said, you're probably looking at a serpentine belt conversion. I've got a small machine shop and I wouldn't bother with supercharging a M20. Its easy enough to get a turbo in there. More than likely cheaper for similarly built setups, in my opinion.

Also, pablo just noticed your from abq aswell. haha where in abq are you?

[Carnifex]

fuck lol :( i was really looking forward to that whine. that teenager struggle though.

I guess i'll reconsider a turbo set up eventually, maybe even just an n/a s52. thanks guys.

[pablo]

the car i'm looking at is a 86 325e. Haven't bought it yet, but will probably end up doing an i head on it.

So I would just need to get the intake fabricated, correct?

For the supercharger? You'd have to make sure the pulley is indexed properly with a drive pulley. Belts don't like misalignment, if its off square, or forward or aft whatever you drive it off of, you'll have issues with the belt wearing or throwing it off all together.

Like nando said, you're probably looking at a serpentine belt conversion. I've got a small machine shop and I wouldn't bother with supercharging a M20. Its easy enough to get a turbo in there. More than likely cheaper for similarly built setups, in my opinion.

[jlevie]

The real secret to success, whether it is a turbo charger or super charger, is a proper tune. In my opinion you really can't get there with the OE engine management system, you need something more flexible and more sophisticated. Like a MegaSquirt. You won't get there for $1k, but if your budget is around $4k...