Air induction...thoughts?

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  • Paul-Z
    Advanced Member
    • Jan 2018
    • 159

    #1

    Air induction...thoughts?

    On my turbo setup, I currently have an intake pipe running from the turbo, down through where the AC dryer used to be, with the filter basically behind the air dam in front of the passenger side wheel well.

    Would this be preferred over putting a velocity stack in my high beam and attaching the filter directly to the turbo?

    Not sure which would bring in cooler air to the turbo? Or if it would even make a difference...
    Last edited by Paul-Z; 03-31-2018, 08:31 AM.
  • downforce22
    No R3VLimiter
    • Aug 2009
    • 3189

    #2
    Turbos create vacuum to pull air in through the filter. Generally bends and filter create a pressure drop. On a turbo engine, a RAM air effect doesn't really happen because the turbo is already creating a suction effect to pull air into the engine. I don't think there would be much benefit to either. As long as the air under the hood isn't too hot, or has a heat shield there it wouldn't make too much of a difference.
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    • Paul-Z
      Advanced Member
      • Jan 2018
      • 159

      #3
      Originally posted by downforce22
      Turbos create vacuum to pull air in through the filter. Generally bends and filter create a pressure drop. On a turbo engine, a RAM air effect doesn't really happen because the turbo is already creating a suction effect to pull air into the engine. I don't think there would be much benefit to either. As long as the air under the hood isn't too hot, or has a heat shield there it wouldn't make too much of a difference.
      Appreciate the response. I was thinking more in terms of heat more so than the ram air effect. I’m probably overthinking it. I’m thinking where I currently have it mounted is closer to the road which may carry more heat in the summer vs. up higher at the headlight. Obviously either option is better than just a filter sitting under the hood.

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      • earthwormjim
        E30 Addict
        • Jul 2014
        • 434

        #4
        Originally posted by Paul-Z
        Appreciate the response. I was thinking more in terms of heat more so than the ram air effect. I’m probably overthinking it. I’m thinking where I currently have it mounted is closer to the road which may carry more heat in the summer vs. up higher at the headlight. Obviously either option is better than just a filter sitting under the hood.

        I guarantee the temperature increase from compressing the air, will outweigh any tiny temperature differences you'd see from using a cool air source.


        Besides, that is what an intercooler is for.

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        • e30davie
          E30 Mastermind
          • Apr 2016
          • 1788

          #5
          That is a good point above in regards to the temp increase from compressing the air.
          I think its always best to attempt to get some outside air to the air filter. If you look at every OEM setup since forever they have a feed from somewhere with fresh air directly to the air box. OEM e30 has a plastic piece behind the headlight with a hole cut in it with a pipe that goes directly to the air box to make a "cold feed".

          I always liked the idea of using the bonnet/hood as the "top" of an airbox and boxing in the pod filter on 3 sides with an air feed from somewhere. Makes for a neat install.

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          • Paul-Z
            Advanced Member
            • Jan 2018
            • 159

            #6
            Originally posted by earthwormjim
            I guarantee the temperature increase from compressing the air, will outweigh any tiny temperature differences you'd see from using a cool air source.


            Besides, that is what an intercooler is for.
            Good point. Didn’t think about the fact that if you compress air it heats up. I guess I’ll stick with th me way I have it ran now. Never had an issue just rejiggering some stuff so figured I would ask.

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