m10 timing chain adjustment

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  • jordan541e30
    Noobie
    • Sep 2013
    • 6

    #1

    m10 timing chain adjustment

    Hey m10 folks my car has been running very bad to the point that I can't drive it a mechanic told me it needs a timing chain adjustment and he isn't following through with doing it for $600. I'm to the point to where I'm going to do it myself if someone could please give me details on how to do this? If anyone has done this it would be very very appreciated if you could tell me how to do it/ what lines up with what. Thanks Jordan.
  • kronus
    R3V OG
    • Apr 2008
    • 13005

    #2
    the timing chain is not "adjustable", that mechanic is out to screw you

    the valves are adjustable and should not cost 600 to do. you can do them yourself.

    the timing chain does have a tensioner and some guide rails, they might affect timing as they wear.
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    • thebutterson
      E30 Addict
      • Jan 2012
      • 463

      #3
      Maybe the timing chain tensioner went bad? If so that's a very easy fix, not sure about the cost of parts though.

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      • jordan541e30
        Noobie
        • Sep 2013
        • 6

        #4
        I recently replaced the head gasket, half way through tearing apart I had to relocate could the chain have slipped a couple teeth off of time? And if so could this cause my car not to run correctly at all?

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        • jordan541e30
          Noobie
          • Sep 2013
          • 6

          #5
          And I just recently adjusted the valves to .008

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          • bmwman91
            No R3VLimiter
            • Oct 2004
            • 3128

            #6
            If the cam/crank moved relative to one another, then yes the car will run very very poorly, if at all. Has it run this badly since the first start after the head job?

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            • jordan541e30
              Noobie
              • Sep 2013
              • 6

              #7
              It started immediately after the head job ran somewhat perfect before

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              • Jaxx_
                E30 Mastermind
                • Dec 2009
                • 1880

                #8
                If the head was shaved the timing of the chain would be out of adjustment. edit for clarification: The valve train would be out of time compared to the bottom end. this usually isn't a huge deal, but it can be a factor. There are head timing wheels to bring it back (I believe advance).

                either way, the process for all this probably shouldn't add up to $600. It's possible, but probably not, even for the most expensive mechanic.
                '84 318i M10B18 147- Safari Beige
                NA: 93whp/90ftlbs, MS2E w/ LC, 2-Step
                Turbo: 221whp/214ftlbs, MS3x flex @ 17psi

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                • jordan541e30
                  Noobie
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 6

                  #9
                  The head wasn't shaved but inspected for warp and cracks.

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                  • TobyB
                    R3V Elite
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 5168

                    #10
                    Here's the definitive way to check.
                    Rotate the crank until the mark on the cam is straight up. It's a bit tricky to see-
                    use a mirror and a light...

                    If you can see down the timing window, you should see a T or similar mark on the flywheel. Rock it backwards and forwards a few degrees...

                    That never seems to work for me, though, so the other way to TDC the crank is to put a
                    small plastic rod through the spark plug hole, and feel as you rotate the crank.
                    Get the piston right to the top, and rock the crank back and forward 'till you get
                    a pretty good feel for it, then stop at the center.

                    The line on the cam should now be right at the straight up point.

                    hth

                    t
                    now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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                    • thebutterson
                      E30 Addict
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 463

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TobyB
                      Here's the definitive way to check.
                      If you can see down the timing window, you should see a T or similar mark on the flywheel. Rock it backwards and forwards a few degrees...
                      You should also have a timing mark on the crank pulley that lines up with a dowel on the timing chain cover.

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                      • TobyB
                        R3V Elite
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 5168

                        #12
                        ...not everyone does, I know not why. Sometimes, too, the 'T' is not there.

                        frikkin' BMW.....

                        heh

                        t
                        now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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                        • SkiFree
                          R3VLimited
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 2766

                          #13
                          Originally posted by TobyB
                          ...not everyone does, I know not why. Sometimes, too, the 'T' is not there.

                          frikkin' BMW.....

                          heh

                          t
                          Toby sometimes I like you bunches, other times I want to kick you in the balls. Stop toying with my heart.
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