Help Breaking in New build 3.1L stroker

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  • firemanory
    E30 Addict
    • Dec 2008
    • 486

    #1

    Help Breaking in New build 3.1L stroker

    Hi Friends.

    Ive been off of here for quite some time dealing with the depressing sight of my dead e30 Alpina Tribute. I was running RHD's ITB setup on my original m20b25 and was having fun with it running around town, dropping kids off at school and playing with autotune over time. Unfortunately for me I neglected one of the cardinal rules of vehicle ownership in checking fluids over time and unfortunately for me I blew my engine after I ran it with basically no oil going home after dropping kids off at school. Long story short, all that playing around with tuning and such and running rich basically burned off my engine oil and my idiot light wiring was broken (unbenownst to me and only found out after tearing everything down) and overheated the motor and seized it up. Basically, I was an idiot.

    2 years later I thought I was close to firing up a brand new 3.1L build with the following spec sheet and have been having some issues.
    Stock block, bored to 86mm
    Ross 9.5:1 pistons, with the optional deflection rings for oil control ring
    Forged H-beam rods from ireland engineering 135mm
    S52 crankshaft with the front main seal adapter
    ARP rod and head bolts
    Camshaft is a new 288/280
    stock valves/springs
    HD rockers with new rocker shafts
    Nuke performance adjustable cam gear
    Windage Tray in oil pan
    Cylinder head has been welded at failure point on coolant ports
    Cometic MLS headgasket of stock height

    The engine was built 5 years ago or so and has sat up until last month. Got the accessories put on and engine dropped into engine bay and things were looking good. I am not a MS expert by any stretch, maybe barely a rookie but thats all I will claim. My hope was that I could use the factory intake system (intake manifold, AFM, etc) along with my 19# matched injectors and stock ecu to just break the engine in and then go back to the awesome ITB's from RHD and enjoy from there.

    The issue I have been having is that the motor will not turn over at all (or at least longer than 5-10 seconds). I was at my wits end so had the car towed to a local BMW independent who has gone thru the whole car and cant find anything amiss besides it not running off this current setup. Meaning spark, fuel, timing, engine harness etc are all in good working order.

    My question is this: how do I go about breaking this engine in properly/safely? My take at this point is to go back to the ITB's and MS and see if it will run well enough to break the motor in, dump the Gibbs break in oil and put in the new oil and begin syncing the ITB's and getting it tuned up. My concern is that it wont run well enough with a new build that has sat and hasnt been broken in and might do more harm than good.

    What do the experts that have dealt with this think is the best course of action is?
  • firemanory
    E30 Addict
    • Dec 2008
    • 486

    #2
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    • firemanory
      E30 Addict
      • Dec 2008
      • 486

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      • digger
        R3V OG
        • Nov 2005
        • 6188

        #4
        if you swap to the original intake setup you would still need to tune with it to begin with so you probably haven't gained anything.

        i would probably use what you had before as if it ran well it seems this would be the most expedient way to get a good tune into it as fast as possible i dont know if MS has any kind of self learning based on the wideband
        89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

        new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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        • firemanory
          E30 Addict
          • Dec 2008
          • 486

          #5
          Yeah have the Og intake setup on it now, so would just be a matter of getting a TPS adapter to work with og throttle body and then modifying my current Ms with the larger displacement and prob some other settings. Gotta drill a hole somewhere in the intake post the filter and should be good to go ??

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          • firemanory
            E30 Addict
            • Dec 2008
            • 486

            #6
            Forgot to mention that TunerStudio has an autotune feature that could be used if the base tune needed some tweaking. Worked well on the ITB’s

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            • digger
              R3V OG
              • Nov 2005
              • 6188

              #7
              Originally posted by firemanory
              Forgot to mention that TunerStudio has an autotune feature that could be used if the base tune needed some tweaking. Worked well on the ITB’s
              so why not just start with ITB and eliminate the need to tune twice?
              89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

              new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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