B27/B25 Cylinder head components

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  • rcfanatic
    E30 Addict
    • Feb 2009
    • 490

    #1

    B27/B25 Cylinder head components

    Do the B27 and B25 share the same cam sprocket, rocker clips, and "ventilation pipe" (part# 11421265376)?

    I picked up a B25 head for a good price, but it didn't include the cam sprocket, the pipe that runs across the top of the head, valve cover, or cam sprocket. I was hoping to reuse these from my B27 head, but want to make sure before I find myself without a running car and needing to order parts.


    Thanks,
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  • 2.5-12
    E30 Mastermind
    • Jan 2010
    • 1814

    #2
    the oil tube is the same, and I am 99% sure the cam gear is the same size
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    • rcfanatic
      E30 Addict
      • Feb 2009
      • 490

      #3
      Anybody else?
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      • mulberryras
        Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 40

        #4
        i think the piston of the 2.5 and 2.7 are different so the chamber are different on the head you will have a low compression engine i as far as i understand

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        • rcfanatic
          E30 Addict
          • Feb 2009
          • 490

          #5
          Originally posted by mulberryras
          i think the piston of the 2.5 and 2.7 are different so the chamber are different on the head you will have a low compression engine i as far as i understand
          Did you even read the original post?

          I mainly need to know if the cam sprockets are the same. Anybody?
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          • custom e30
            Grease Monkey
            • Nov 2009
            • 347

            #6
            yes they are the same

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            • E30QC
              Wrencher
              • Mar 2009
              • 214

              #7
              Originally posted by rcfanatic
              Did you even read the original post?

              I mainly need to know if the cam sprockets are the same. Anybody?
              did you? the head didnt come with a cam sprocket, a tube, valve cover, cam sprocket,...
              calm down, ps. the guy above my post put a b27 head on a b25 block, dont speak to him, speak to me. they should be identical both in elliptical and diameter., unless you dropped it

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              • rcfanatic
                E30 Addict
                • Feb 2009
                • 490

                #8
                Sorry to revive an old thread but I just want to make certain about the cam sprockets because I'm going to be doing the job this week. Also, can anyone tell me why my eta cam sprocket doesn't have the hash mark for timing?

                Maybe Jim or nando can chime in?
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                • jlevie
                  R3V OG
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 13530

                  #9
                  I've never seen a cam sprocket that didn't have a mark for cam timing, be it from an M20B27 or M20B25 head. It is kind of essential that there be a mark. To the best of my knowledge, the cam sprockets are interchangeable.
                  The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                  Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                  • rcfanatic
                    E30 Addict
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 490

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jlevie
                    I've never seen a cam sprocket that didn't have a mark for cam timing, be it from an M20B27 or M20B25 head. It is kind of essential that there be a mark.

                    That's what I would have thought. Here's a pic of the sprocket with the harmonic balancer at TDC
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                    • metalix1021
                      Wrencher
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 246

                      #11
                      Originally posted by rcfanatic
                      That's what I would have thought. Here's a pic of the sprocket with the harmonic balancer at TDC
                      That type of cam sprocket does have a mark. It's an arrow on the inner portion of it pointing out towards the teeth. You just cant see it in the picture because its on the bottom half. I bet if you rotate the crank shaft around 2x it will be lined up on the cam sprocket also.

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                      • acefinland
                        Noobie
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 28

                        #12
                        There's a neat and tidy way to check if parts are the same between engines, even other various parts. Go to realoem (firs link) and select the model u have, look for the part u need, copy the part number and then go back to the start and do a parts search. Then u can see which car that part fits too. Did it for the camsprocket, which u can see it fits according to BMW :)

                        http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?...65&hg=11&fg=25

                        http://realoem.com/bmw/partxref.do?p...ur=&series=E30

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                        • Mitch M
                          E30 Modder
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 881

                          #13
                          Originally posted by rcfanatic
                          Do the B27 and B25 share the same cam sprocket" (part# 11421265376)?


                          Thanks,

                          Early ETA's had the stamped steel cam sprocket. The timing mark is near the center and an actual arrow. If turning up the RPM's, run the i cam sprocket as I've heard the stamped steel sprockets can fail.

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                          • rcfanatic
                            E30 Addict
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 490

                            #14
                            OK, just in case anyone else runs into this here is a pic of the arrow. Wish it was located at the periphery, where would make it easier to see and line up with the other mark.
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                            • rcfanatic
                              E30 Addict
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 490

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mitch M
                              If turning up the RPM's, run the i cam sprocket as I've heard the stamped steel sprockets can fail.
                              Can you elaborate more? I probably won't spend too much time above 6k rpm aside from fractions of a second when I'm winding her out, which isn't that often.

                              On related note the machine shop put .030" shims in the valve springs to stiffen them a little. *just out of curiosity* Would this allow me to safely run above 7k rpm? (assume rev limiter disabled)
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