M42 radiator swap complete!

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  • Naplm00
    E30 Mastermind
    • Nov 2008
    • 1573

    #1

    M42 radiator swap complete!

    Ill have some pics up soon but, for thoes who have completed this swap with a M20...

    What did you use for your upper rad hose? I found one at a local auto parts store that kinda fits but it is semi-collapsed

    and direct or near direct fitments?
    88 325ic ~~~> Rusty and ugly
    85 E ~~~> RIP
  • Streichholzschächtelchen
    E30 Mastermind
    • Jan 2009
    • 1670

    #2
    It's probably a stupid question but what is the purpose of swapping an m42 radiator into an m20 car?
    Jah bless! :pimp:

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    • xwill112x
      Θέλησα έναν τίτλο συνήθειας, απορροφώ για να είμ&#
      • Jan 2009
      • 4237

      #3
      integrated resevoir
      sigpic

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      • browntown
        No R3VLimiter
        • Jun 2004
        • 3524

        #4
        Can't contribute technical help, but I can demand pics/

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        • Streichholzschächtelchen
          E30 Mastermind
          • Jan 2009
          • 1670

          #5
          Originally posted by xwill112x
          integrated resevoir
          Thanks you! That'd actually be quite nice to have if I were shaving my engine bay lol. Everything else is removed anyways.
          Jah bless! :pimp:

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          • xwill112x
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            • Jan 2009
            • 4237

            #6
            Originally posted by Streichholzschächtelchen
            Thanks you! That'd actually be quite nice to have if I were shaving my engine bay lol. Everything else is removed anyways.

            it's less coolant hoses/connections to go bad and leak as well. great mod imo.
            sigpic

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            • rThor432
              No R3VLimiter
              • Feb 2007
              • 3907

              #7
              I never took pictures of my M42 radiator after I installed it.. wish I had. That would have been nice for documentation.

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              • Jand3rson
                Banned
                • Oct 2003
                • 37587

                #8
                Yes, yes, pics and info! Also, do you have a late or early model car? I have an '86 325es, so if you have a late, I'll have to do it a little differently.

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                • SpecM
                  R3V Elite
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 4531

                  #9
                  snap a few pics of the hose with different angles, I'll flip through my Gates book tomorrow and see what I can do

                  what hose did you use? part #? oem or Gates/Dayco?
                  1989 cirrisblau-metallic 325i

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                  • Naplm00
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 1573

                    #10
                    Originally posted by xwill112x
                    integrated resevoir

                    ding ding correct
                    88 325ic ~~~> Rusty and ugly
                    85 E ~~~> RIP

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                    • Naplm00
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 1573

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SpecM
                      snap a few pics of the hose with different angles, I'll flip through my Gates book tomorrow and see what I can do

                      what hose did you use? part #? oem or Gates/Dayco?
                      Not sure, ill check the hose tomorrow


                      Originally posted by Janderson
                      Yes, yes, pics and info! Also, do you have a late or early model car? I have an '86 325es, so if you have a late, I'll have to do it a little differently.

                      Ive got a late model cooling system, I did a Timing belt, Waterpump, manual steering swap and oil pan at the same time.

                      For an early system, the only difference would be running a new hose form the second outlet of the water pump (circut #10) to the inlet on the new res. Pain in the ass, i think. May be cleaner to swap to a late model pump then use a "T" on hose #18 in this pic




                      then this way you dont need to run another hose across the front of the engine , you would most likely also have to swap to the late model lower rad hose setup since on the early model the lower rad hose inlet is on the opposite side of the rad then the inlet on the M42 rad.


                      Ill be posting a complete write up with wiring and everything for both models after i put in my electric fan this week with some pics of my insanely disgusting engine bay..you will understnad why i swapped to non-power steering.
                      88 325ic ~~~> Rusty and ugly
                      85 E ~~~> RIP

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                      • Naplm00
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 1573

                        #12
                        just a note to all who want to do this before the write up, the system is very hard to bleed

                        I had to jack up the front left corner of the car, and pour the coolant down the upper rad hose, then use a spare hose and blow into the rad res to force the air out of the top of the system, it then bled properly...using both bleeder screws at once
                        88 325ic ~~~> Rusty and ugly
                        85 E ~~~> RIP

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                        • Jand3rson
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 37587

                          #13
                          I probably would just swap to the late model water pump. I'm pretty sure that will swap directly over, right?

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                          • Naplm00
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 1573

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Janderson
                            I probably would just swap to the late model water pump. I'm pretty sure that will swap directly over, right?

                            Yep, with no issues, the block mounting points are exactly the same.


                            I just took off a early model pump form my late model cooling system. My WP failed and i had no cash for parts..the yards around me only had etas with the early system...so i plugged the outlet with a pipe plug and silicone and ran it for nearly a year.
                            88 325ic ~~~> Rusty and ugly
                            85 E ~~~> RIP

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                            • Naplm00
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1573

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SpecM
                              snap a few pics of the hose with different angles, I'll flip through my Gates book tomorrow and see what I can do

                              what hose did you use? part #? oem or Gates/Dayco?

                              I dont have the hose part # i used..just piced it off the shelf at autozone

                              it is marked: "AU 16709 C"

                              THe issue is the part of the hose that connects to the thermostat housing. Oo the original M20 hose it has a sharp turn at a funny angle down towards the driver side wheel well..it is hard to find a hose like this with a S bend.


                              In auctuality the stock M20 hose would be a perfect fit if the lower part of the hose that connects to the rad made its turn to the front of the car about 2-3 inches sooner. Its just a tad too long. The original M20 hose end ends up right under the rad cap in the center of the new resivior.







                              you can see the zip tie i put on the upper part of the hose to keep it from fully collapsing
                              88 325ic ~~~> Rusty and ugly
                              85 E ~~~> RIP

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