Nice and fast way to bleed coolant in M20

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  • nando
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    yeah, same here. never takes more than 10-15 minutes. open all the vents, fill coolant resivior (leave cap off), open bleed screw, rev engine, and keep filling until the overflow line starts filling the resivior. close bleed screw, cap it off, drive around and top off as neccesary.

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  • lennon
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    i've never had much trouble bleeding the cooling system on my m20s. i just do the standard bleeding procedure. i guess i'm lucky...

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  • tim88325is
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    Actually, that method is exactly what I had a problems with. I just couldn't get the air bubbles out with spending hours of driving and revving the car on the ramps. Even then the temp fluctuated, telling me air was still in the system.

    My system allows the two hot and cold "circuits" of cooling system to be slowly and simultaneously filled under slight pressure from the bottom up. Cold circuit = thermostat closed - water pump, engine. Hot circuit = thermostat open - water pump, engine, radiator.

    With a $6 pump, I was able to completely fill the cooling system without introducing any significant air. Working a cold car, barely spilling a drop, not attaching my mouth to the car, and being done within 15 minutes are a bonus as well. I have put 50 miles on the car with great results and hot heat blowing right off the bat.

    With the amount of issues other people have seemed to have, I really recommend trying this "pump" method and maybe using the "ramp" method as needed to remove any more air.

    Good luck!!!

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  • jlevie
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    A better way to do this is to disconnect the small tub that runs from the reservoir to the radiator from the reservoir. Fill the reservoir with coolant and put the cap on. With the front of the car at least one 1' higher than the rear apply pressure to that tubing (blow into it) until coolant is flowing from the bleed screw and and the top of the radiator. It is important to have the front end of the car up in the air so that the radiator and bleed screw are the highest points.

    Note that this won't clear ar from the heater core. To accomplish that you have to follow the normal bleed procedure (see below).

    1) Using ramps or a jack get the front of the car 1' or more higher than
    the rear. That will make the radiator and bleed screw the highest point
    on the engine and facilitate removal of air.

    2) With the bleed screw open, add coolant until no more air comes out of
    the bleed.

    3) Leave the filler cap off, or at least loose, and set the heat for max
    temp and fan speed. Leaving the cap loose will prevent air that's still
    in the system from causing a "coolant fountain" once the engine heats
    up. Start the engine and allow it to warm up to operating temp. As it
    warms up occasionally crack the bleed screw to release any air and top
    up the coolant as necessary.

    4) Once the engine is at temp bring it up to 2000-2500 for a few seconds
    several times. Then crack the bleed until no more air is released. At
    this point the heater should be throwing lots of hot air, which
    indicates that the heater core is filled with coolant. You may have to
    repeat this a few times to get all the air out.

    5) Drive the car a bit, allow it to cool back down, and recheck the
    bleed for air. Over the next few days you may get very small amounts (a
    few bubbles) of air out of the bleed screw.

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  • rares
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    hey cool man... i am just about to do that...

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  • tim88325is
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    Nice and fast way to bleed coolant in M20

    After changing the timing belt and spending frustrating hours trying to fully bleed the cooling system by having the front on ramps, getting up to temp, using the bleed screw, etc... I would like to offer the following procedure I followed.

    I am sure this has been done before but I haven't seen this exact method it after searching. I have read where people "blow" on the reservoir opening but that seemed a bit crude and inefficient.

    Basically, it is "back-bleeding" the cooling system, I had to do this on Triumph car clutch, the only way to force the brake fluid past a high section of tubing.

    Car - 1988 325is

    The only new tool I needed was a cheap $6.00 plastic "oil pump" that can screw onto the top of a gallon jug. Found it at the local auto parts store.

    Important - I drilled a small 5/64" hole in the top section the outer portion of the new thermostat. Right through the embossed arrow pointing upwards. This allows a small amount of coolant to bypass the thermostat when cold.

    I worked with a cold car, parked flat(no ramps) that is not running and a coolant reservoir that is nearly empty. The night before I had tried to bleed the car by the "ramp" method, it worked ok but the temp did rise when idling. I ran out of time to keep working on it. Overall the system was probably 2/3 full but I think this procedure would work as well on a completely drained system.

    Remove the coolant reservoir cap and put the heat control on full.

    Install the pump in the top of the coolant jug and attach the pump's tubing to the small nipple on the very top left(driver) side of the radiator, directly above the large coolant hose. This nipple normally feeds into the coolant reservoir, you need to remove the small hose clamp and hose.

    Loosen the bleed screw on the thermostat housing.

    Pump the coolant into the radiator until the it flows out of the bleed screw on the housing.

    Close the bleed screw.

    Keep pumping the coolant until the coolant reservoir starts to fill up. I actually heard gurgling sounds as air bubbles worked out.

    Keep pumping until the reservoir is full.

    Remove the pump's tubing from the radiator nipple. Have the original hose ready to slip on because it will spurt coolant out of the radiator.

    I put the reservoir cap back on and went for a drive with perfect results. It ran cool and consistent.

    I have found this method to be extremely fast, clean, and safe compared to what I had tried before.

    Let me know if you have any questions or feedback!!!
    Last edited by tim88325is; 05-09-2010, 12:58 PM.
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