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    Does anybody know how fast the intermediate shaft spins?

    At idle. I know the cam spins at half engine speed. I'm trying to diagnose some bearing noise. Only happens when the engine is warmed up. When it's cold the noise is not present. And off idle I can't hear the noise. It is very apparent at idle and can be heard from at least 15 feet away.

    So far I know that:

    The noise has a frequency that could be lined up with cam speed (350 rpm or thereabouts).
    Water pump is new, cam belt tensioner is new. Distributor cap and rotor are also quite new. I did not think to check the intermediate shaft for play when I had the chance. The head has been off and flattened and refreshed since the noise started (no change to noise) but I don't trust that the guys who worked on it would have seen a cam bearing problem if there was one, especially since noise is only present warmed up. And I had evidence when I got the head back that they're not too bright.

    I do have a stethoscope, but all I can tell with it is that the noise is somewhere on the front of the engine. I can hear the noise quite well on the engine lifting bracket, not quite as well on the front of the head casting, and about the same on the block right above the intermediate shaft. I can also hear the noise if i put the steth on the distributor boss, but not as loud as at the forward end of the intermediate shaft.

    The engine has 164k miles on it. No other running problems. Runs very well actually.

    edit: I also know that the noise is not caused by an accessory. I ran the engine (while warmed up) very briefly with all the belts removed and the noise was still present.
    The current fleet:
    1992 325ic: 148k-171k miles
    1999 Chevrolet Tahoe LT 4WD, 114k-142k miles
    1984 MasterCraft Stars and Stripes Powerslot (not a car :D) PCM Ford 351W, 904 hours

    #2
    count the number of teeth on the gear
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      #3
      okay, so I count 33 on the intermediate gear, and 50 on the cam gear (might be off in my count by a tooth or so but close enough).

      So does this mean it spins about a third again as fast as the cam?
      The current fleet:
      1992 325ic: 148k-171k miles
      1999 Chevrolet Tahoe LT 4WD, 114k-142k miles
      1984 MasterCraft Stars and Stripes Powerslot (not a car :D) PCM Ford 351W, 904 hours

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        #4
        I'd be quite surprised if the noise was from the intermediate shaft or camshaft and not all surprised if it was from the waterpump or timing belt tensioner. Yes, I understand those parts are new, but new parts can be bad on occasion. Remove all the belts from the engine and see if the noise is still present. You can run a cold engine for a few minutes w/o the pump and do no harm. If the noise is still present, replace the timing belt tensioner.
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        Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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          #5
          ^^^ +10

          OK so you got 30 teeth on the Inter shaft, and 50 on the cam
          that means you have 25 on the crank. So is rolles alittle slower than normal rpm..
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            #6
            When this happened to me it turned out to be a bad water pump even thought it was almost brand new. Then I decided to do the timing belt and tensioner since I was in there. The tensioner also turned out to be bad even though it was just as new as the water pump.

            Not sure what the odds of that happening are, but it happened.

            Either my mechanic was using crap parts or he didn't change them at all.

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              #7
              cam gear is 48 teeth
              Build thread

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