Aftermarket Intake Manifolds?

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  • Suspence
    E30 Modder
    • Jul 2009
    • 943

    #1

    Aftermarket Intake Manifolds?

    Anything out there? Looking for something to allow more air flow...
  • bimmerteck
    Mod Crazy
    • Mar 2009
    • 762

    #2
    Short of an ITB setup there isn't really anything that flows better than the OBDI manifold.

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    • nando
      Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 34827

      #3
      Er, M20?
      Build thread

      Bimmerlabs

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      • blefevre
        R3V Elite
        • Dec 2008
        • 4287

        #4
        Extrude hone intake is about $600
        ITB kit is about 3,000

        Neither are worth it, but ITB's are pretty sweet if you have the cash to blow on random stuff.

        - E30, DSM, Golf R, Mazda 3 Skyactiv

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        • bimmerteck
          Mod Crazy
          • Mar 2009
          • 762

          #5
          Originally posted by nando
          Er, M20?
          doh, coulda sworn I was still in DOHC land. :oops:


          Extrude hone, or ITBs as pictured below.



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          • billybobjoseph
            Wrencher
            • Mar 2011
            • 213

            #6
            There you go! Then get the 19lb mustang injectors and some oversize valves installed, get a custom built header and a little larger exhaust set up with a high flow cat from summit. Then get a programmable chip and whoo hoo!!!

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            • jlevie
              R3V OG
              • Nov 2006
              • 13530

              #7
              Everything I've seen says that the mass flow limit of an M20B25 engine is the head, not the stuff that bolts to it.
              The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
              Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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              • nando
                Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 34827

                #8
                Originally posted by jlevie
                Everything I've seen says that the mass flow limit of an M20B25 engine is the head, not the stuff that bolts to it.
                Its true to a point, but theres really nothing wrong with the head, and even in stock form the intake runners flow less than the head inlets. An extrude hone could be worth something.
                Build thread

                Bimmerlabs

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                • billybobjoseph
                  Wrencher
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 213

                  #9
                  have a machinist bore out the valve holes a little and put in some bigger valves

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                  • nando
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 34827

                    #10
                    That wont solve anything, it will just make the existing restriction worse.
                    Build thread

                    Bimmerlabs

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                    • billybobjoseph
                      Wrencher
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 213

                      #11
                      Why is that?

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                      • Todd Black 88
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 3449

                        #12
                        Re read post #8
                        Originally posted by codyep3
                        I hope to Christ you have looks going for you, because you sure as fuck don't have any intelligence.
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                        • billybobjoseph
                          Wrencher
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 213

                          #13
                          Ah ok, it's the ports

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                          • digger
                            R3V Elite
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 5929

                            #14
                            Originally posted by nando
                            Its true to a point, but theres really nothing wrong with the head, and even in stock form the intake runners flow less than the head inlets.
                            Originally posted by nando
                            That wont solve anything, it will just make the existing restriction worse.
                            I don't agree with that analogy at all. I realising you were simplifying things.

                            If for example the manifold was the most restrictive part of the engine (i am not saying it is just using it as an example) that doesn't mean that improving the headflow or other parts of the inlet won't make gains.

                            This is because while it may be the most restricive part of the engine on a relatively stock engine it is not so excessively restrictive enough to eliminate any gains from freeing up flow elsewhere.

                            If someone takes a stock 885 head and does a good port job and flow numbers increase to 200CFM without overly increasing port volume then there will be good gains even if they still use the stock AFm, intake, TB and airbox. Obviously improving everything is better......
                            89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                            new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                            • billybobjoseph
                              Wrencher
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 213

                              #15
                              I'm really liking this thread. I'm pulling my intake mani in the next couple of weeks to replace gaskets and rebuild my injectors. I'll do some measurin and figgerin and post it all on here.

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