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  • OrangeFiero
    Grease Monkey
    • Nov 2011
    • 350

    #1

    Turbo M20 owners attention

    OK so Ive gathered a ton of info in all kinds of turbo m20 builds. Only problem is half of it is speculation, people claiming it will work with no proof. I would like to see examples of real setups to compare them to sort out some things and have working proof of systems actually performing. So i would like to see these things...

    1 Pistons used
    2 Crank
    3 Rods
    4 Head work (including valvetrain mods)
    5 Cam
    6 How much boost, and with what turbo
    7 Tranny
    8 Any block work done
    9 RWHP
    10 Bore, Stroke, Displacement
    Other

    If this kind of thing has already been done, please let me know with a link, thank you for your time
    John 16:33

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  • MR 325
    Moderator
    • Oct 2003
    • 37825

    #2
    1 Super Eta pistons
    2 Eta crankshaft
    3 Eta rods
    4 Port/polished 885 head w/IE HD rockers
    5 274 turbo spec'd cam
    6 9psi / T3/T4 turbo Exh .57ar/Comp .50
    7 Stock 260 trans
    8 Stock rebuild w/ARP hardware
    9 267whp / 276wtq
    BimmerHeads
    Classic BMW Specialists
    Santa Clarita, CA

    www.BimmerHeads.com

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    • darvo
      E30 Addict
      • Dec 2010
      • 407

      #3
      You must have a really low C/R!! :D

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      • codrum
        Wrencher
        • Jan 2011
        • 279

        #4
        1 Stock*
        2 Stock*
        3 Stock*
        4 OEM Goetz headgasket with ARP studs
        5 Stock*
        6 15psi, Holset H1C with 18cm2 exhaust
        7 Getrag 260, stock
        8 None
        9 Have not dyno'd, Ran 13.4 at 108mph in the 1/4 (195 shit tires, 5800' elevation, open diff..)
        10 Stock*
        11 MS II/e - 42lb injectors, stock fuel pump

        * = 1989 325i m20b25

        Fuel/ignition management is the most important part and should be added to the list. I've been running this way for almost a year with no problems.

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        • OrangeFiero
          Grease Monkey
          • Nov 2011
          • 350

          #5
          How much do you think you have in your setup codrum?
          John 16:33

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          • MR 325
            Moderator
            • Oct 2003
            • 37825

            #6
            Originally posted by darvo
            You must have a really low C/R!! :D
            Well that combo is originally 8.5:1 since it's basically a factory setup. Not sure how much the thick HG lowers it though.
            BimmerHeads
            Classic BMW Specialists
            Santa Clarita, CA

            www.BimmerHeads.com

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            • reelizmpro
              R3V OG
              • Dec 2003
              • 9446

              #7
              Stock rebuilt M20B25 with Cometic MLS headgasket, Metric Blues, Garrett T3/T4, Ebay manifold, intercooled, 30lb injectors, MS1v3, dyno tuned 265rwhp at 11PSI on dynapak chassis dyno.
              "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

              85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
              88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
              89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
              91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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              • Kershaw
                R3V OG
                • Feb 2010
                • 11822

                #8
                Originally posted by codrum
                9 Have not dyno'd, Ran 13.4 at 108mph in the 1/4 (195 shit tires, 5800' elevation, open diff..)
                elevation does not affect turbo cars the way it does to n/a cars. the 195s and open diff are probably a bigger draw back.
                AWD > RWD

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                • codrum
                  Wrencher
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 279

                  #9
                  Originally posted by OrangeFiero
                  How much do you think you have in your setup codrum?
                  I have almost exactly $3000 into the turbo setup including the wideband and MSII/e, if you're interested I've kept up a spreadsheet of every little part I pieced together.

                  Originally posted by Kershaw
                  elevation does not affect turbo cars the way it does to n/a cars. the 195s and open diff are probably a bigger draw back.
                  I'd disagree saying that elevation doesn't effect turbo cars. Sea level atmospheric pressure is 1 bar or 14.7psi, at 5800' of elevation the atmospheric pressure is roughly .85 bar or 12.5psi. That means naturally aspirated I start at a disadvantage of a few psi compared to sea level racing. I can overcome that difference by turning up the boost but the thinner air causes more work and forces the turbo to be less efficient. When I say I'm running 15psi that's relative to atmospheric conditions, relative to sea level that's only 13psi or so.

                  Here's a nifty calculator I found: http://www.modulardepot.com/density.php

                  The 195s and the open diff made it pretty tough to get off the line though, my 60' times were awful.

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