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  • Herr Faust Schinken
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    • Feb 2012
    • 3580

    #1

    Are my valves too loud ?

    Well I pulled the valve cover off , to do a valve adjustment , I adjusted all the valves to spec for a cold engine , double checked and put the valve cover back on started the car and there's a clacking sound now , waited till the next mourning to readjust did the entire process over and this is the result



    I'm thinking that that sound is really bad sorry about the bad video
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  • e30jake
    E30 Modder
    • Feb 2012
    • 855

    #2
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    And can't help you. I've sorta been wondering the same thing about mine. Gotta adjust them and see what happens
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    • Kvasi
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Apr 2011
      • 1122

      #3
      Yes their a bit noisy. Some of the "adjusters" somethimes get knocked flat, and then adjust themself off again. Loosen and turn them 90deg and check, costs almost nothing new.

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      • Herr Faust Schinken
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        • Feb 2012
        • 3580

        #4
        Can I drive the car like this or should I just let it sit until I can get a new gasket to open the engine up again?
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        • Kvasi
          E30 Enthusiast
          • Apr 2011
          • 1122

          #5
          Dont have to change the cover gasket every time its off.
          The more you drive with to mutch gap the faster they gets smacked flat.

          For the record, since my english isnt to good, theese:




          As you can see im pretty badass and didnt give a shit about copyrights
          Last edited by Kvasi; 06-21-2012, 01:34 PM.

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          • Herr Faust Schinken
            No R3VLimiter
            • Feb 2012
            • 3580

            #6
            Yeah the little eccentric adjuster things on the end of the rocker arms , it just sucks because they used to be a lot quieter
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            • paperplane94
              E30 Addict
              • Jul 2011
              • 420

              #7
              using a thicker weight oil will quiet them down.

              My opinion, they sound fine to me.
              Our engines ticked out of the factory and they still should tick to a certain degree.

              Noticed I used 'tick' and not 'clack'. Clack is bad.

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              • jlevie
                R3V OG
                • Nov 2006
                • 13530

                #8
                They sound a little loud for a cold engine. Do they quiet down when the engine is at normal temperature? If not, I'd suspect they aren't adjusted correctly (too loose).

                The best way to adjust the valves is by using a spring tool on the eccentrics (the BMW procedure). That removes any subjective judgement from the adjustment. And as a bonus it is much faster.
                The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                • harold30
                  Advanced Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 180

                  #9
                  Are my valves too loud ?

                  Hi Jim, if it will quiet at normal temperature that is normal, right? What really happen why it make sound? Pls educate me. Thanks!

                  Originally posted by jlevie
                  They sound a little loud for a cold engine. Do they quiet down when the engine is at normal temperature? If not, I'd suspect they aren't adjusted correctly (too loose).

                  The best way to adjust the valves is by using a spring tool on the eccentrics (the BMW procedure). That removes any subjective judgement from the adjustment. And as a bonus it is much faster.

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                  • jlevie
                    R3V OG
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 13530

                    #10
                    The sound you hear is the rockers hitting the valves. Excess clearance between the eccentric and valve is the cause of that. But, even when correctly adjusted, worn valve guides, eccentrics, or rockers will cause more noise.

                    You can get the eccentric spring tool from BavAuto. With it you back off the eccentric, slip the feeler between the eccentric and valve, then use the tool to tighten the eccentric until you have a 45deg or more bend in the tool's spring and lock down the eccentric. There is no subjective judgement then in setting the clearance. A straight feeler gauge can result in excess clearance. You really need to use a bent gauge or one short enough that it will lay flat across the top of the valve. I use a single strip feeler (not part of a fold up set) that has been bent to an included angle of about 225deg.
                    The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                    Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                    • Herr Faust Schinken
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                      • Feb 2012
                      • 3580

                      #11
                      That video was taken after the car was at idle for a few minutes so it was on the 1/4 mark , I have 20w-50 in it And is this the spring tool ? http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...C%20Each%20%20
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                      • jeffnhiscars
                        R3V OG
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 6010

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Herr Faust Schinken
                        That video was taken after the car was at idle for a few minutes so it was on the 1/4 mark , I have 20w-50 in it And is this the spring tool ? http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...C%20Each%20%20
                        yes, thats the spring tool...but Im wondering...you said you adjusted the valves "to spec". What gap did you go with and was it hot or cold ?
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                        • Herr Faust Schinken
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                          • Feb 2012
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jeffnhiscars
                          yes, thats the spring tool...but Im wondering...you said you adjusted the valves "to spec". What gap did you go with and was it hot or cold ?
                          I adjusted them to .25 because the car was cold from sitting over night
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                          • jeffnhiscars
                            R3V OG
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 6010

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Herr Faust Schinken
                            I adjusted them to .25 because the car was cold from sitting over night
                            .25mm or .025 in ?
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                            • Herr Faust Schinken
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                              • Feb 2012
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                              #15
                              .25mm
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