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    My 1222 Code

    If you've read the build thread you know the Zinno Cabrio is doing great. If you haven't read it dont read this :p

    I've put about 3k on the car since getting it back on the road and that includes 2 trips to Florida of about 1200mi @ so its mostly highway miles. I recently started getting a CEL only at idle and after the car had been out for a good run. It starts, runs, idles and drives perfectly so I figured it was probably a sticky oil pressure warning switch since its due for a change and the light always goes off the instant I hit the gas.

    Since the car just turned 100k I figured I'd throw in an O2 sensor just because. I reset the DME with a battery disconnect and took off for Florida. Everything was great except my highway mileage (calculated AND per the OBC) had dropped from 25 to about 22 and it has stayed there. Keep in mind Im comparing 2 trips on the same route within month with no other changes.

    Today I pulled the codes..which I didnt think I could do on a 7\87 build..and I got a 1222 (Lambda Control). This does not indicate an O2 fault but rather an O2 input issue. In going through the list (you have to read the build thread to know how long that list is), the only thing that I have not recently removed, replaced or adjusted was the CTS so I ordered a Bosch today from Amazon Prime for $14.

    I also took a VOM to the O2 sensor and did not get voltage at the harness side of the heater wires which I should, and the O2 Heater Relay seems to be ok which suggests a break in that wire which could be fooling the O2 sensor in to running rich, especially if the CTS is off. I havent checked the diagrams to see if the heater should be kicking in at cold start and in running it for a few minutes I got resistance readings at the O2 sensor in the .25 range with no change with revs or the oil cap removed.

    Other than retesting the O2 sensor after a good run am I missing anything..or should I try putting the old sensor back ?
    Last edited by jeffnhiscars; 01-30-2013, 04:08 PM.
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    Understand that a 1222 code is a Lambda (mixture too lean or too rich) fault, while it could be caused by a problem with the O2 sensor, that usually sets a 1221 code. In this case, with a new O2 sensor, the likely cause will be intake leaks. Especially since the CEL appears at idle and goes away with an increase in throttle. There are other possibilities, but start with a smoke test of the intake and repairs as indicated.
    The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
    Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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      #3
      Originally posted by jlevie View Post
      Understand that a 1222 code is a Lambda (mixture too lean or too rich) fault, while it could be caused by a problem with the O2 sensor, that usually sets a 1221 code. In this case, with a new O2 sensor, the likely cause will be intake leaks. Especially since the CEL appears at idle and goes away with an increase in throttle. There are other possibilities, but start with a smoke test of the intake and repairs as indicated.
      I wont say an intake leak is impossible, but its all just been put back together and rather thoroughly checked.

      I'll re-check for leaks especially at vacuum hoses I reused but may also put the old sensor back to see if the problem goes away before I start looking for a smoke machine..since the drop in mileage coincided with the new O2 install
      Last edited by jeffnhiscars; 01-30-2013, 05:38 PM.
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        #4
        I took some TB Cleaner to the intake side and got some increased revs at the breather hose elbow to TB connection...no big surprise there. I pasted some Ptex#2 around the joint and ran a zip tie around the TB to hold it for now.

        We'll see
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        87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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          #5
          The complete list
          of possible causes of an intake leak is:

          Intake boot
          Throttle body gasket
          ICV hoses & connections
          Brake booster, hoses, and connections
          Crank case breather hose
          Evaporative control hoses, valve, and expansion tank
          Fuel pressure regulator & hose
          Injector seals
          Valve cover gaskets & bungs
          Oil filler cap
          Dip stick o-rings
          Oil return tube o-rings

          While leaks in some of those can be found by inspection or by spraying carb
          cleaner on suspect areas, not finding leaks that way doesn't eliminate the
          possibility. Only a smoke test will really work. And since carb cleaner, or similar, only works on a pretty large leak, you really should have a smoke test run.

          There are only two long term fixes for leaks at the throttle body elbows. A new throttle body or JBweld. Silicone, Permatex, etc., starts leaking again in a while. Just be sure to clean the bore and nipple with acetone or lacquer thinner first and let the car sit for 24 hours in 60F or above without stating the engine so that the JBweld can cure.
          The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
          Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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            #6
            Would you have a spec or source for replacement dipstick o-rings ?
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            87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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              #7
              I just match the ID and cross section from an o-ring kit. It is metric so the match will come there.
              The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
              Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                #8
                It just keeps getting more interesting. I thought I had ordered a Bosch CTS since I selected an OEM part. Well it turns out OEM has more than one meaning



                It does say "made in Italy" which Im ok with. Clearly not Bosch.
                Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

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                87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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                  #9
                  OEM actually means a part that you get from your dealer. However, parts made by the OEM supplier are usually okay.
                  The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                  Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jlevie View Post
                    OEM actually means a part that you get from your dealer. However, parts made by the OEM supplier are usually okay.
                    I'm sure you meant OE is what comes from the dealer.

                    What I got is not OEM which would be Bosch but rather is made by a company called O.E.M. Its like buying a BMW part and finding out that it's made in Germany by Bruno's Mechanical Widgets Gmbh aka BMW.
                    Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

                    https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
                    Alice the Time Capsule
                    http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
                    87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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                      #11
                      stock injectors?

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                        #12
                        LOL, where can I buy those Bruno's Mechanical Widgets parts?
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by bastianshaw View Post
                          stock injectors?
                          Correct. Serviced with a mrinjector kit during the head rebuild

                          Originally posted by frankenbeemer View Post
                          LOL, where can I buy those Bruno's Mechanical Widgets parts?
                          Why at Bruno's Car Parts & Tacos !!
                          Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

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                          Alice the Time Capsule
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                          87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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                            #14
                            smoke test

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by bastianshaw View Post
                              smoke test
                              Its already been suggested and besides not having a clue where do get one done, I posted that I found a leak and did a temp repair. If the CEL doesnt come back I'll make that fix permanent.
                              Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

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                              Alice the Time Capsule
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                              87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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