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  • Savagefurai
    E30 Modder
    • Apr 2011
    • 970

    #1

    Hard stuttering. Bucks like a horse. Need help. $1 to whoever finds the problem firs

    My 88 325 has recently undergone a bit of maintenance. When I got her back on the road, she was running great. About two weeks ago I noticed a minor stumble. This stumble progressively got worse until now, and its pretty much undriveable.
    When I first noticed it, it seemed to start at around 3k rpm and would not be dependent on throttle position.
    When it got worse in the following days, it became apparent that it was manageable when cold but got progressively worse as it came to temp, at which point it became horrible.
    Then we come to today, where it is now doing this even at cold temps.

    When it happens it feels like its coughing or stuttering at light throttle and a very jerky, hardcore stumble at wot. It will hunt at idle which is generally around 1k rpm.

    I have recently replaced the following
    Tps
    Cps
    Afm
    Injector harness
    Throttle body gasket
    Fuel pump
    Fuel filter
    Fpr
    All new relays
    Cleaned and checked c101
    Tested DME
    Blower motor resistor
    Evap canister thing behind tps under throttle body
    Checked grounds and contacts @ battery

    Another issue that may or may not be related is that my #10 and #20 fuse keeps blowing and I have no gauges, power mirrors or blower. Aux fan does work tho...

    Any help would be very much appreciated as this is my main transportation and I'm stumped.

    Whoever finds the problem gets $1 gifted to their paypal.

    Thanks guys.
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  • delamaize
    E30 Fanatic
    • Nov 2013
    • 1429

    #2
    according to my bently manual, #10 runs a mess of things, some of the high points are the tach, and other engine vitals gauges, and "fuel delivery system" which is also fuse #9

    #20 is the heat/ A/C and aux rad. cooling fan.

    If I had to make an educated guess, I'd say you got something in cluster that is shorting out and popping those fuses, and given the "fuel delivery system" is on the same fuses, I'd say you're problem is.

    I'm just stabbing in the dark though.
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    • Savagefurai
      E30 Modder
      • Apr 2011
      • 970

      #3
      Im pretty sure it isn't a fuel problem because of the parts I have replaced and because I have good pressure at the rail.
      I will re check the cluster tho. Any common failures behind there that could be associated?
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      • Savagefurai
        E30 Modder
        • Apr 2011
        • 970

        #4
        Anybody got any thoughts?
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        • dnguyen1963
          R3VLimited
          • Nov 2011
          • 2648

          #5
          Do a smoke test if you are sure that you do not have eny electrical shorts.

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          • Checkered Sphere
            Noobie
            • Sep 2013
            • 24

            #6
            Check the hoses around the fuel pump and filter and make sure they are not pinched. Had this happen to me after I replaced a filter.

            Check for spark at each plug. Did you replace your injectors?

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            • Killacortes
              E30 Mastermind
              • May 2010
              • 1937

              #7
              This happened to me on two different e30s both had a problem with the ignition coil
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              • CarsSuck
                E30 Modder
                • Oct 2005
                • 968

                #8
                This might be a bit of a stretch, but since you've got an '88, I would try to verify that you have the correct CPS and Coolant temp sensors, since there were a few different specs and BMW made lots of changes starting in late '87 thru '89 cars.

                You know about the separate coolant sensors, right? single pin sensor is to the gauge and two pin is for the DME. Best way to verify resistance is with an ohmmeter at the temps given in the Bently manual.
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                • Holland
                  R3V OG
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 7176

                  #9
                  I've been dealing with a similar problem on my M10 for months. It's becoming quite expensive...

                  Good luck, and let us know what you find.
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                  • Savagefurai
                    E30 Modder
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 970

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Checkered Sphere
                    Check the hoses around the fuel pump and filter and make sure they are not pinched. Had this happen to me after I replaced a filter.

                    Check for spark at each plug. Did you replace your injectors?
                    I've checked this. Injectors replaced.
                    I have spark.





                    Originally posted by dnguyen1963
                    Do a smoke test if you are sure that you do not have eny electrical shorts.
                    A smoke test is on the way if I can't narrow it down.





                    Originally posted by Killacortes
                    This happened to me on two different e30s both had a problem with the ignition coil
                    Coil and dizzy cap are both brand new.





                    Originally posted by CarsSuck
                    This might be a bit of a stretch, but since you've got an '88, I would try to verify that you have the correct CPS and Coolant temp sensors, since there were a few different specs and BMW made lots of changes starting in late '87 thru '89 cars.

                    You know about the separate coolant sensors, right? single pin sensor is to the gauge and two pin is for the DME. Best way to verify resistance is with an ohmmeter at the temps given in the Bently manual.
                    The cps I got was a factory piece and I am picking up both sensors today.





                    Originally posted by Holland
                    I've been dealing with a similar problem on my M10 for months. It's becoming quite expensive...

                    Good luck, and let us know what you find.
                    This^
                    I have probably dumped close to a grand into this thing.
                    By the time it does run right, it will be new. Lol.
                    Thanks tho.
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                    • cgk_iii
                      Mod Crazy
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 616

                      #11
                      Do a compression test.. Sounds like you're not getting the correct fuel/air delivery. Maybe a leaky head gasket?
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                      • Savagefurai
                        E30 Modder
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 970

                        #12
                        Originally posted by cgk_iii
                        Do a compression test.. Sounds like you're not getting the correct fuel/air delivery. Maybe a leaky head gasket?
                        Maybe, but wouldn't my oil and water be inter mixing?
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                        • cgk_iii
                          Mod Crazy
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 616

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Savagefurai
                          Maybe, but wouldn't my oil and water be inter mixing?
                          Lack of engine power is also one of the signs of a blown head gasket. The engine will lack power because of compression loss and the engine will run poorly and have a rough idle. I experienced these symptoms with with my 90 325i before i started seeing water and oil inter mixing. Wouldn't hurt to check!
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                          • Savagefurai
                            E30 Modder
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 970

                            #14
                            Originally posted by cgk_iii
                            Lack of engine power is also one of the signs of a blown head gasket. The engine will lack power because of compression loss and the engine will run poorly and have a rough idle. I experienced these symptoms with with my 90 325i before i started seeing water and oil inter mixing. Wouldn't hurt to check!
                            Alright then.
                            I will add this to the list.
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                            • cgk_iii
                              Mod Crazy
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 616

                              #15
                              Good luck! I hope thats not the case
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